Sounds like a box checker. "Enter a four digit number lower than 2011 to use this computer properly". Ok then...
A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification
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Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification
#432I will start making a list for linux then. rm - ok for all ages. grep - 18+, you can obviously use this to search for porn. find - 18+, see grep. reboot - ok for all ages. echo - ok for all ages. cat - 18+, prints the porn you found directly to your terminal. sudo - 18+, obviously. kill - ok for all ages. This is the US, right. ps - 18+, no peeping at other processes.
ed - 45+ nostalgics only
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#433Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're saying that term limits reduce corruption? That's in fact not at all what the research says. There's a decent amount of research that suggests that they actually increase corruption. There's overwhelming evidence that they increase the power of lobbyists and interest groups. This is a classic one of those ideas that many people intuitively "feel" makes sense but is actually just terrible policy.
It seems logical to me that a term limit could increase vulnerability to corruption in your last term. If you can't be re-elected, there is less incentive to be loyal to the people you represent.
The potential for corruption exists independent of term limits. "the studies" are readily available for investigation.
Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification
#434Skimming the actual text of the law[1], I don't see anything particularly objectionable. Basically it requires a toggle when creating/editing a local user account that signals "this user is/is not a child". Applications could then tailor their content for child/not child audiences.
Which isn't to suggest that it's a good law, just not really "age verification".
[1]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification
#435Reaction 1: how would this even work with embedded systems that have no UI to input this data? Reaction 2: it's open source, make the lawmakers do submit the changes. Reaction 3: how would this ever be enforced? Would they outlaw downloading distributions, or even older versions of distributions? When there's no exchange of money, a law like this is seems like it would be suppression of free speech. Reaction 4: Someo…
While there are some enforcement questions here, especially around non commercial OSes, most of your reactions are clearly based on the headline alone. It defines operating system in the law. This wouldn’t apply to embedded systems and WiFi routers and traffic lights and all those things. It applies to operating systems that work with associated app stores on general purpose computers or mobile phones or game console…
Is a repository on a linux machine an app store? Are custom repositories app stores? Does this mean that now most automated deployments are now not automated? If they can be automated, does that mean that having the automation by default makes sense?
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#436Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification
#437Reaction 1: how would this even work with embedded systems that have no UI to input this data? Reaction 2: it's open source, make the lawmakers do submit the changes. Reaction 3: how would this ever be enforced? Would they outlaw downloading distributions, or even older versions of distributions? When there's no exchange of money, a law like this is seems like it would be suppression of free speech. Reaction 4: Someo…
While there are some enforcement questions here, especially around non commercial OSes, most of your reactions are clearly based on the headline alone. It defines operating system in the law. This wouldn’t apply to embedded systems and WiFi routers and traffic lights and all those things. It applies to operating systems that work with associated app stores on general purpose computers or mobile phones or game console…
> Also it’s not age verification really
Not yet, but it will be one day if it passes
Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification
#438How wouldn't this also apply to things like useradd(8) or simply automated user account setup, e.g. like cups, sshd, etc? Do we need to add this to vi for use in vipw on UNIX?
Maybe the OS could ship with preconfigured age-range based usergroups. When you add a new user you could simply add them to the appropriate usergroup.
>> useradd -G under13usergroup username
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#439Alcohol is harmful, and you want to prevent minors from obtaining it without parental supervision. Do you pass a law requiring every car to log the age of every occupant in case the driver drives to an establishment that sells alcohol? No, that's stupid. You require the person providing the alcohol to check age only when they are about to hand over the alcohol. Until someone actually attempt to access alcohol, they should not be asked their age.
Now exchange "car" for "OS" and "alcohol" for "age-sensitive content"
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#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of these questions are actually answered in the law itself. You could be your own investigator in seconds. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm... Your toaster is not impacted. You’re turning a law that, yes, has some open questions around implementation, into a way bigger scare and conspiracy. > operating system provider, as defined, to provide an accessible interface at account setup th…
You should follow your own advice. Their definition of "app store" is a mile wide: "(e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing that can access a covered applicati…
GitHub isn’t an app stores associated with an operating system though. Your personal website is most likely not in scope. You have to put all the pieces together.
Apt… yes is an App Store run by an operating system organization (Debian org). That feels pretty unsurprising. Debian’s parent organization (headquartered in the US) probably needs to comply with this.