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Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by rmbyrro »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #417
rmbyrro wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are looking at a simplistic perspective. Surveillance doesn't always run 24/7 for every device. The signal/noise ratio would be extremely low. To keep a high ratio, it's selectively switched on for high interest targets. There's no reason for a drone flying on my backyard to send any data to China. Their privacy protection is inexistent. You can ask it to be conceivably whatever horse shit you like, I don't care.…

Nothing simplistic about asking for evidence that this is occurring. Yes it’s not easy, but without evidence you’re spewing speculation, and when you claim speculation as certainty it ventures into the realm of bull shit.

There's plenty of evidence that the CCP forces Chinese tech businesses to do surveillance:

1. https://www.google.com/search?q=ccp+chinese+tech+surveillanc...

The word you're trying to find is not "speculation", but "suspicion":

1. a feeling or thought that something is possible, likely, or true.

2. cautious distrust.

You may like China or think there's no difference between the US and China. But saying there's no reason to be suspicious of a Chinese device is putting you in the realm of unreasonable...

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by rmbyrro »

mardifoufs wrote: post #411
rmbyrro wrote: post #381

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No, but US reputation is way better than China's. In the absence of a surveillance-free device, people prefer the one with the better rep.

>us reputation is way better Where? Maybe in the west, certainly not in the rest of the world. China didn't start a war that killed 1million people not even 20 years ago. Westerners don't care about that but that's to be expected.

You are right, Chinese govt didn't kill only 1 million.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

The US military complex is beyond dirty and its grip on govt power makes everyone sick in the West and the East.

But reducing the US to that and then doing a comparison with the Chinese government and ideology is unfair, in my opinion.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by herbst »

brentm wrote: post #74

I always look at these and think I want one but also can't think of what i'd actually use it for. I just picture it sitting in a closet next to my GoPro and Oculus after about 3 days of messing around. Anyone own one? What do you use it for?

Got a used mini 2 a few months ago and know what you mean. Thing is for the $200 I paid it's ok. I likely would feel bad with a $1000 machine.

It's picture quality is amazing and it's fun to check caves in the mountains and possible paths before going them. Also more advanced travel selfies are fun.

I don't use it when many people are around, so that would highly limit it in some places for me.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by TheHappyOddish »

foota wrote: post #426
guax wrote: post #366

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They're not cloud based as far as I would define it. I have one and fly mostly on areas where there is no internet signal. The drone beams back video to your phone and unless you're syncing the cache videos with their cloud nothing its stored other than flight meta data. You can avoid even that by using a totally offline controller/phone.

How does the drone communicate with the phone?

Via the remote over RF.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by TheHappyOddish »

palata wrote: post #337
pseudosavant wrote: post #308

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I don't know enough to offer any real sources, but I'll share that I've found ChatGPT very useful for learning stuff like this - really solidly documented and established science/engineering. I asked* "When making a wireless transmission what is the signal loss at 20km for 2.4Ghz?" and it gave an excellent explanation of free space path loss, stepped through the calculations, and gave the correct answer. I've had it…

> but I'll share that I've found ChatGPT very useful for learning stuff like this I get your point, but no way I use ChatGPT. Other than all the ideological issues I have with it, I just can't trust it. > and gave the correct answer. Are you saying that because you believe it did, or because you already knew the answer? I don't trust ChatGPT, so I don't want to learn anything it says. And I don't need it for stuff I…

It's not that different to Wikipdia. Trust, but verify. It's usually correct, but regardless it's a useful starting point for a topic.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by palata »

TheHappyOddish wrote: post #436
palata wrote: post #337

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> but I'll share that I've found ChatGPT very useful for learning stuff like this I get your point, but no way I use ChatGPT. Other than all the ideological issues I have with it, I just can't trust it. > and gave the correct answer. Are you saying that because you believe it did, or because you already knew the answer? I don't trust ChatGPT, so I don't want to learn anything it says. And I don't need it for stuff I…

It's not that different to Wikipdia. Trust, but verify. It's usually correct, but regardless it's a useful starting point for a topic.

Wikipedia shows sources, does not hallucinate, and shows the same content to all the users (meaning that if there is a mistake, someone else can actually report it).

That is very different to me.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by ricardobeat »

eenchev wrote: post #353

In Europe, it is limited to a flight height of 120m

That’s enough for photographing an entire small city from above. Though in the Netherlands for example the normal limit is 50m.

There is no way you can keep visual contact at this distance, especially for a tiny drone like this, and you’re getting relatively close to air traffic in some places. Europe is quite dense. Makes sense that going further requires a license / flight plan.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by muro »

bri3d wrote: post #98
cheesemayo wrote: post #47

Beware that DJI's software to control these craft is super sketchy to install and use. It doesn't exist in the Google Play Store, to avoid inspection.

One easy (albeit a little costly) solution here is to use the DJI Android-tablet remote (DJI RC / RC 2).

If you use their controller, you no longer need the app on a phone (e.g. to fly in restricted locations)? That would be nice.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by palata »

rmbyrro wrote: post #432
mardifoufs wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>us reputation is way better Where? Maybe in the west, certainly not in the rest of the world. China didn't start a war that killed 1million people not even 20 years ago. Westerners don't care about that but that's to be expected.

You are right, Chinese govt didn't kill only 1 million. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine The US military complex is beyond dirty and its grip on govt power makes everyone sick in the West and the East. But reducing the US to that and then doing a comparison with the Chinese government and ideology is unfair, in my opinion.

> occurred between 1959 and 1961

This doesn't qualify for "not even 20 years ago".

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