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Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by cultofmetatron »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #38
ben7799 wrote: post #22

I've had the original Mini since it came out. Other than damaging a prop from it hitting a blade of grass on landing it is in perfect shape. Yes, they are so fragile I landed very smoothly in the grass and soft grass is enough to damage the props! I don't fly it as much as I used to. These new ones are certainly an engineering marvel with how much they have added and still kept it under 249g. The big one to me though…

I have a friend that builds his own drones (and RC vehicles, like a really big, fast tank). He sneers at DJI, but keeps one to entertain the mensch (that's me). He also sneers at licensing, jailbreaking, geofencing, etc. I notice that there aren't any pictures that actually show people in close proximity to the drone. The "drone in hand" picture looks photoshopped, so I assume the drone is actually not-so-mini. I hav…

would love to get an alternative but it doesn't seem like anyone else is getting anywhere near the flight times that dji has. all the non dji drones I've seen list 8 min while dji is saying 15-20 min.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by petsfed »

ceejayoz wrote: post #7
stefan_ wrote: post #2

Where is the US or EU competitor to DJI? They are running away with it. Oh right, we instead pioneered regulation and legislation , all those deaths from drones falling down and drones hitting planes.

Do it before someone dies: "Regulation out of control!" Do it after someone dies: "Why didn't you do anything?!" It's not insane to get out in front of drone regulation; their numbers are likely to continue to increase. Lack of regulation certainly isn't DJI's advantage; they still have to comply with it to sell their product in a whole bunch of major markets. That's the exact reason this drone weighs 249 grams.

And anyway, I get the impression the real reason we went so hard on drone regulation was that it thought it'd be easier to make unlicensed drones illegal than it was to investigate every time somebody shot a drone out of the sky. That violations of the anti-anti-aircraft-artillery laws haven't risen commensurate with drone usage really speaks highly of the general populace (although there are a fair number of news stories surrounding incredibly dumb people shooting down drones)

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by spankalee »

cheesemayo wrote: post #47

Beware that DJI's software to control these craft is super sketchy to install and use. It doesn't exist in the Google Play Store, to avoid inspection.

Is this a new thing?

I had the original Mavic Mini and installed the DJI Fly App (v1.2.1 on my phone now) from the Play Store.

edit: here's the listing: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dji.go.v5

Though it doesn't show up in search from the web.

edit 2: The Android download on their site is definitely an APK and not a Play Store link: https://www.dji.com/downloads/djiapp/dji-fly

Why in the world would they need to do this?

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by brentm »

I always look at these and think I want one but also can't think of what i'd actually use it for. I just picture it sitting in a closet next to my GoPro and Oculus after about 3 days of messing around.

Anyone own one? What do you use it for?

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by spankalee »

hashtag-til wrote: post #53
cheesemayo wrote: post #47

Beware that DJI's software to control these craft is super sketchy to install and use. It doesn't exist in the Google Play Store, to avoid inspection.

I don’t have any of these, but is the software some apk you download, and at that point can’t that be inspected?

Who inspects APKs?

The Play Store has all kind of automated and manual processes to detect malware and vulnerabilities. It's why I don't enable side-loading on my phone.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by ceejayoz »

yetanotherloser wrote: post #66
ceejayoz wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Sometimes "you should have anticipated this would be a problem" is the appropriate response. I don't subscribe to the idea that government should be exclusively reactive to things.

The problem isn't that, it's governments being excessively reactive to things. In their view few people dying of random mishaps is always an excuse for more government. In my view everybody dies of something and faced with the threat of a 251g drone to the skull vs the horror of everyone pickled in aspic under maximum government insanity just to preserve me long enough enough into decrepitude that the medics get to t…

I mean, it's not free, but flying a drone under 55 pounds for personal use requires a $5 registration fee in the US. I'm pretty comfortable with that level of "pickling".

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by Saris »

spankalee wrote: post #73
cheesemayo wrote: post #47

Beware that DJI's software to control these craft is super sketchy to install and use. It doesn't exist in the Google Play Store, to avoid inspection.

Is this a new thing? I had the original Mavic Mini and installed the DJI Fly App (v1.2.1 on my phone now) from the Play Store. edit: here's the listing: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dji.go.v5 Though it doesn't show up in search from the web. edit 2: The Android download on their site is definitely an APK and not a Play Store link: https://www.dji.com/downloads/djiapp/dji-fly Why in the world would th…

Even their play store app downloads a bundle of files to run after you launch it for the first time, which is against Google ToS.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by Foivos »

SirMaster wrote: post #65
Foivos wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that this only applies to the FCC regulations. In Europe (CE regulations) the claimed range is 10 km. The mini 3 pro has a CE regulations claimed range of 8 km, but after 2.5 km I pretty much loose connection. If I turn the drone to face my direction, I might be able to fly it a bit further, but at this point it is so hard to control it, that there is no point. Btw, according to regulations, you can not…

Hmm, 2.5km? I've flown the original DJI Mavic Pro to about 4-5km multiple times and never had any real issue with the video feed. I'd be surprised if this much newer gen is worse.

Which country was that? The drone detects the country through GPS upon startup and limits its transmission power according to the local laws.

In the US, the drone can use way higher transmission power (~ 4-20 times more, depending on the drone) .

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by dylan604 »

cush wrote: post #14

Light drones are great, but how far away are we from quiet consumer drones? I'd love to not have every hike ruined by some wannabe videographer.

I'd love to have my photoshoot not ruined by some wannabe hiker.

it plays both ways

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by trust_bt_verify »

bragr wrote: post #60
loeg wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been annoyed by drones lots of times and never talked to the operators. It's not because I didn't notice.

Perhaps but I fly my Mini 2 regularly, and people have a hard time finding it in the sky even when I point it out to them at 100ft. At 200ft it might as well not exist. They are so small and light, they just don't put out the dBs like bigger drones.

Being able to spot a small white object in the sky and hearing it are very different things.

I put drone operators on the same level as those who hike with speakers blaring. No one is being hurt, no laws being broken. Just inconsiderate considering a large part of the experience for most in nature is the serenity.

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