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‘Great Resignation’ gains steam as return-to-work plans take effect

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A lot of domain knowledge and momentum might be lost due to such reshuffling. Losing competitive edge and whatnot. But maybe they have excellent documentation, knowledge sharing and mentorship, unlike all multinational corps I've ever worked for (where was generally a cost center and frowned upon).

Monopolies don't need to be as competitive.

Exactly. This is overlooked to an insane degree when extolling the accomplishments of the FANGs and their founders.

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In my experience at least talking to some younger people there is a clear dichotomy: despite all the talk about Gen Z being "digital natives", people new in their career are much hungrier to get back into the office because they don't yet have good career networks built up and they're eager for mentorship. It is older, or at least more established workers who are less keen on that. I don't think FAANGs will have any…

From a single, young: I miss the office for.. - Free and convenient food. - Social chatter & engagement. - Making friends with employees who I don't know and connecting with new employees. - Work life separation (balance). - Proper workstation, climate controlled environment. - Sense of belonging - team outing, after hours beers.. - Intra and inter company sports and games. - Meeting potential dates. [Not me. Just em…

Not criticizing you, but almost everything in that list is in direct contradiction with work/life separation, which you also listed.

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Why? Because if you live in a great place, all those things are available to you without discontinuity regardless of WHO you work for. The reason that there's such a disconnect between 20-somethings and everyone else on this issue is because everyone else has been through it already. Sure, there's a possibility that you will remain friends with people at your former place of work after you leave. There's also a VERY…

>Because if you live in a great place, all those things are available to you without discontinuity regardless of WHO you work for. And how is this an argument for not also getting those things through work? I have many hobbies outside work. I live in a great place where I am able to spend my free time meeting people and doing things outside work. I still want those things from my workplace, too.

Because you have a limited amount of time to invest in certain things in life, and it's better to invest that time independently of your work environment. Not saying that you can't ever have it, just that some day will be your last day at wherever you are, and those relationships don't always follow you to your next job.

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I think WFH is also primed for abuse, but I haven’t heard anything from companies of what they are going to do, or what employees are going to do, about preventing and avoiding abuse. it’s easy and rather flip and just say well if you don’t do your job you’re going to get fired, what does that mean exactly, and how long would it take? I think there’s also a trust issue, a lot of people who want to return to the offic…

The whole "don't trust employees to do the work" thing is an interesting statement. It reveals a lot about how the business measures and keeps track of its own performance.

Just how much was being done in the office pre-pandemic? Those businesses likely didn't actually know. well they sure looked busy, right?

The abuse aspect is also interesting. Friend of mine got verbally abused. On zoom video with audio. While it was recording. So that was an experience when HR got involved.

Overworking is another aspect. That is still being explored. Plenty of scope for that to blow up as well.

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There's a bias towards tech company and startups here. Those are concentrated in places like the Bay Area, NYC Metro, Boston Metro, Atlanta Metro, DC Metro, etc. Those places are all commuting hellscapes, so there's almost no scenario where you wouldn't do WFH if you could. My dad did the Queens-Manhattan bus/subway/express subway/walk treadmill for most of his career -- not fun. I live in a small city with a 6 minut…

The commute thing depends on where exactly you live and work. I worked in SF for years, but lived in the city and biked to work. It was a nice commute, a great office, and I loved our neighborhood. These kinds of things are just really hard to generalize.

Yes and no. Lots of exceptions exist.

But you can look at data like stuff from the Census Bureau and see detailed comparisons of commute times in different locales that give you a sense of the variation.

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I think too much of the blame here gets put on the "executive/managerial" and capital class for the back to office drive and not enough gets put on the soulless HR machine at these mega companies. A huge amount of the value and work the HR org does is manage things in the office, mange in person conflicts, manage relationships, etc. With remote work, so much of the impetus for these busybodies is gone, and the scope…

The "Return to Work" process is also a huge project for their resume line :)

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I experienced all of these to a much better degree during college. Are you sure you don't just want to live in a city that provides plenty of shared spaces? Relying on your employer for these items seems unwise.

Dating at work is especially a bad idea. Things could be perfect, but (with high probability) a relationship will abruptly end and managing every social aspect can be difficult.

Most people don't care about their jobs more than they do about their relationships.

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Well, the PNW just had record temps for three days straight (100+ F is unheard of with avg Seattle July highs of 77) and AC is an uncommon residential amenity that is usually offered at large offices. Does the office run the AC a bit cold? Yes, but to be honest when you reach almost too hot to sweat that's a nice problem to have.

Given someone is working a white collar, air conditioned office job, I would guess their probability of having AC at home is north of 90%. https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/reports/2009/air...

This is regional. The Bay Area and PNW have a lot of buildings without AC, typically no need for it, and the landlords don't have any reason to install it.

I used a portable AC in the past but they barely work and are very loud.

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That's certainly possible :) Even as someone with over a decade of work experience it's somewhat aspirational to work for a FAANG and get that big paycheck and all those RSUs. But no WFH is a deal-breaker unless they start opening up offices in Milwaukee soon.

Google and Amazon are both in Madison.

It's probably like Google's office in Ann Arbor -- 450 people in advertising, marketing, and sales.
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