Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

Post by olliej » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 9:31 PM UTC

meekmockmook wrote: post #17

I have seen so many violent threats and incitements on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, and Instagram over the last 5 years that Parler could possibly make the case that they've been singled out, but I doubt it. They're just too unsympathetic of a plaintiff, imho. That said, antitrust battles against Big Tech will dominate the next four years of economic policy, and rightfully so. GAFA is too big, too powerful, too manip…

Post by CobsterLock » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

mhh__ wrote: post #419

CobsterLock wrote: post #413

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Yet 4chan has succeeded in may organized tasks. They played capture the flag with Shia LaBeouf [1], fixed votes for NYTs person of the year [2], and made the OK hand signal into a White Power symbol [3]. Sure these aren't super involved, but it's a bit dismissive to say they aren't capable of organized efforts. [1]: https://www.vice.com/en/article/d7eddj/4chan-does-first-good... [2]: https://techcrunch.com/2009/04/21…

Organise anything like this . The difference between the Capitol thing and the stuff 4chan gets up to is that the protests like this require a critical mass of not only people but belief - the former is possible on 4chan, but the latter needs some kind of consistent identity to rally around.

Post by nip180 » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 9:45 PM UTC

cudgy wrote: post #422

nip180 wrote: post #271

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Let’s be clear, access to cloud computing companies like AWS is a competitive advantage because it requires less upfront capital and less engineering time to manage. I can 100% see why Parler would prefer having access to AWS compared to running their own hardware. Ianal, so I can’t judge the merits of this legal case. To be honest I’m surprised Parler can find lawyers willing to bring it to court on their behalf, or…

“I’m surprised Parler can find lawyers willing to bring it to court on their behalf, or banks willing to process transactions to pay said lawyers.” Personally, I am surprised at the opposite. That a company cannot find lawyers to defend their position or process payments from their customers without due process is horrible. The fact that you were not surprised by it is quite worrisome. I don’t mean that as a personal…

Post by kiwidrew » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 10:10 PM UTC

cudgy wrote: post #363

bigtones wrote: post #94

1). AWS can suspend service for any customer immediately upon giving that customer notice. They do not have to provide a "remediation period" or give the customer any grace time at all. Every customer agrees to this as part of the AWS Customer Agreement 2). AWS can terminate an account immediately if they deem you in violation of their policies instead of a suspension - as was the case with Parler. It's all in the AW…

If that is so, why would any company that has a critical business utilize these cloud services? For example, a 911 emergency software provider, a law enforcement agency, a hospital or other medical organization, political organizations, religious organization, or any other organization that either has critical services to deploy or may get caught in the crosshairs of a political movement. I think given these events c…

Post by buzzerbetrayed » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 10:21 PM UTC

cy_hauser wrote: post #398

cudgy wrote: post #300

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“Twitter and Facebook have extensive systems for keeping the various horrors in check. They are not as good as I think they should be. But they're miles better than what Parler had, which was more of a fig leaf.” If Twitter and Facebook (being multibillion dollar companies with a decade or more to build these algorithms) haven’t solve this problem yet, how can any upstart possibly compete with them? They’d be shut do…

Being smaller they can and should user human moderation. Twitter and Facebook have problems because of the huge number of posts. Parler is still small enough that then _can_ moderate.