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Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

tbenst wrote: post #129
Nacdor wrote: post #80

Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook". So far he hasn't been able to identify a single person who was arrested and active on Parler: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silenci…

This is almost certainly false. For example, see the arrest of the leader of the Proud Boys (for events prior to Capitol, but played active role on Parler encouraging proud boys violence that day): https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/several-well-know...

>For example, see the arrest of the leader of the Proud Boys (for events prior to Capitol, but played active role on Parler encouraging proud boys violence that day)

You seem to be talking about Enrique Tarrio, the latino leader of the "Proud Boys" who was arrested when he stepped off his plane, for the crime of burning a blm symbol in DC the month before.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/proud-boys-leader-arres...

But you also seem to be trying to correlate that to this event. I don't know how they are related to Parler, can you explain?

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by dragonwriter »

bigtones wrote: post #94

1). AWS can suspend service for any customer immediately upon giving that customer notice. They do not have to provide a "remediation period" or give the customer any grace time at all. Every customer agrees to this as part of the AWS Customer Agreement 2). AWS can terminate an account immediately if they deem you in violation of their policies instead of a suspension - as was the case with Parler. It's all in the AW…

Yeah, I think the contract claims are the most transparently weak (I think all the claims are weak and that the lawsuit is more perfomative gesture for PR grievance than filed with substantial expectation of recovery, but its not laughable on the level of most of the Trump election lawsuits.)

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Post by meekmockmook »

101008 wrote: post #93
drocer88 wrote: post #10

"Friday night one of the top trending tweets on Twitter was 'Hang Mike Pence.' But AWS has no plans nor has it made any threats to suspend Twitter’s account." Is this true?

By the other comments, it seems was true but Twtiter moderated it quickly. However, I remember when J.K. Rowling gave her opinion on transgender issues, RIP JK Rowling was trendin gtopic for hours, and she received a lot of hate and threats on Twitter. Not only that, a lot of people started replying to her tweets with dick pics, which was dangeours because she was in the middle of an activity with children (they coul…

I strongly disagree with Rowling's bizarre obsession but she faced months of death threats while Twitter looked the other way.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by nickysielicki »

caminocorner wrote: post #155

> However, Friday night one of the top trending tweets on Twitter was “Hang Mike Pence. This has been going on for 12 years. More evidence that both sides use Twitter for violence: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/14/violent...

It wasn't too long ago that we cheer-on and celebrate how Twitter hosted calls for political violence. Much was said about how Twitter enabled the Arab Spring, and how that was so wonderful. There's even a wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_and_the_Arab_Spri...

Now the Western elite (on both sides, mind you -- whether it's against BLM or the Proud Boys) are doing their best pikachu face.

Mob-style tyrannical democracy for thee, but not for me.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by COGlory »

manigandham wrote: post #212
meekrohprocess wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with targeting ads based on subject matter? TV channels and magazines know how this works. If the page is about fashion, sell ad space to clothing companies. If the page is about travel, sell it to hospitality companies and tourism boards. If the page is about politics or finance, sell it to people making catheters and stair lifts. It's much less creepy than trying to spy on everybody who reads the page,…

It doesnt work as well as targeted ads. Why would hundreds of billions in ad spend willingly choose a lesser option?

Is there evidence for this?

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by CyanLite2 »

Nacdor wrote: post #220
tbenst wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is almost certainly false. For example, see the arrest of the leader of the Proud Boys (for events prior to Capitol, but played active role on Parler encouraging proud boys violence that day): https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/several-well-know...

The story does confirm he wasn't there though, not sure if he had been released by then: > Tarrio does not appear to have been present during the insurrection.

Because he was arrested prior. The coordination and planning took place on Parler.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by walrus01 »

Nacdor wrote: post #80

Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook". So far he hasn't been able to identify a single person who was arrested and active on Parler: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silenci…

> Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook".

Glenn Greenwald also chose to make the fake Giuliani/Hunter Biden laptop story the hill on which he wished to die upon, related to his resignation from the Intercept, so whatever credibility he had remaining has long since departed.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=greenwald...

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by rmah »

nullc wrote: post #213
tptacek wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon cited a long string of specific violent posts that they themselves reported to Parler and that Parler didn't remove.

So, Parler perjured themselves in the linked complaint when they stated that every example cited by amazon was removed?

It appears so. Is this surprising?

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by jcranmer »

IANAL, but I already see one massive issue with the lawsuit:

Count 1 is a claim against the Sherman Antitrust Act. By their own citation (see claim 31), they need to allege specific facts that would conclude (1) the existence of a conspiracy, (2) intention on the part of the co-conspirators to restrain trade, and (3) actual injury to competition.

There's no facts that allege (2). Actually, I suspect they also need to list Twitter as a defendant to properly claim (1) as well, since it's Twitter that has the alleged monopoly, and the one for whom the alleged conspiracy to restrain trade exists.

Their facts probably don't even amount to alleging (1). They basically say "AWS also provides services to Twitter" (okay that's not a conspiracy by itself) and "Twitter also had an issue with the #HangMikePence hashtag" (omitting the fact that Twitter did kill the hashtag)--which still doesn't allege a conspiracy.

I'm sure some actual lawyers will shortly comment on whatever other gross procedural filings this lawsuit has (https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/134870050647095296... suggests there's quite a few).

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