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Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by mcv »

falcolas wrote: post #323
haberman wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find that very worryingly vague. In my reading though, that only applies to YouTube itself ("the Service"). It seems to be saying that your Google account can lose access to YouTube, not that you can lose access to your Google account.

It's recently been proven that the two are one in the same (look up the "Markplier YouTube Ban").

Wow. That is some heavy-handed, misguided "justice" there. Banning people's Google (including GMail) accounts, even rejecting appeals, only for using emotes the way it was requested and encouraged by the streamer they were commenting on.

The thing that was apparently against unspoken Youtube policy here was this kind of interactive, emote-driven streaming. But I get the impression Markiplier didn't get banned, only their fans.

It's bizarre and alarming.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by mcv »

flanbiscuit wrote: post #391
JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me want to ditch gmail to prevent accidentally getting my account closed, say for using Youtube while I have Adblock installed in my browser. I do have personal email on a domain I own, but it will be a lot of work to update my e-mail address with each service.

I want to ditch Gmail/Google as well but I am so entrenched into Android that I'm torn. I don't want to rely on third party ROMs that I need to root and install on my phone. I want the latest AOSP security updates, that's why I choose to buy the Pixel line of phones (looking into Android One phones as well). Also how do I keep my contacts synced between devices. What's a good replacement for Google Photos that gives…

And that's how it works. If you want to be able to use all the cool stuff that Google creates, you have to submit to their business model and play by their rules.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by JulianMorrison »

JohnFen wrote: post #384
JulianMorrison wrote: post #83

They are being very stupid. Switching primary browser isn't trivial, but it's easier than wading through an ad-laden web. Goodbye Chrome, hello Firefox.

> Switching primary browser isn't trivial It isn't? It seems trivial to me -- what are the friction points?

If you're not technical, switching browser means losing your entire navigation map of bookmarks and default start page, along with learning a different program's ways of doing the same things.

If you are technical, it's still a pain to get everything imported and set back up, and the extensions you're used to may be absent or done in different ways, and the subtleties of eg: incognito mode and reader mode may be different. You may have to re-construct your personal adblock rules. And so on.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by blep-arsh »

cletus wrote: post #303
blep-arsh wrote: post #226

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30K is just not enough. Intercepting requests is still possible, just not blocking. Extensions have been already abusing this, of course. It's fiendishly difficult to prevent e.g. corporate users from leaking the whole intranet to SimilarWeb unless you completely disable browser extensions.

> Intercepting requests is still possible, just not blocking False: https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/declarativeNetReques... "There are the following kinds of rules: - Rules that block a network request. - Rules that prevent a request from getting blocked by negating any matching blocked rules. - Rules that redirect a network request. - Rules that remove headers from a network request."

I mean the current request inspection API, not the new ruleset-based one.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by flanbiscuit »

majora2007 wrote: post #400
flanbiscuit wrote: post #391

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I want to ditch Gmail/Google as well but I am so entrenched into Android that I'm torn. I don't want to rely on third party ROMs that I need to root and install on my phone. I want the latest AOSP security updates, that's why I choose to buy the Pixel line of phones (looking into Android One phones as well). Also how do I keep my contacts synced between devices. What's a good replacement for Google Photos that gives…

This is exactly my problem as well. I think the best bet is to partially move off. Setup backups with other systems. For email, have all emails forward to a backup Yahoo account or something. You don't have to check it, but just have it in case Google screws you.

Yeah that's what I'm going to have to do as well. I think the most important (for me) is changing my email to another service (looking at Fastmail) and then slowly changing all my logins to that one. Backing up my contacts on a regular basis and importing them to the new service. And moving any important stuff off Google Drive. I'll probably still use docs and sheets but for things that I don't care if I lose. And finally, Google Photos will be the hardest one to leave. I have so much in there

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by entropea »

pfdietz wrote: post #246
mcv wrote: post #170

I'm in the process of switching as much as possible to Firefox. I now use Firefox Mobile on my smartphone, and my new laptop doesn't even get Chrome. And in many ways, it's been a breath of fresh air. Firefox gives my much more control over my privacy, and even recommends some extensions to improve it further. A couple of websites are sadly broken on my Firefox setup, but I can live without them. I want to get back t…

> I want to get back to the content-driven web rather than this ad-driven web we have now. Are you prepared to pay for it?

I have no ads or tracking on my website and provide code and projects, I just enjoy sharing things so other people can learn or get benefit out of what I've created.

I remember early 2000's, late 1990's internet...it was truly better times. Simplicity ruled, content ruled, not design solely around selling clicks.

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Post by mcovey »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #390
pen2l wrote: post #305

This is not as terrifying to me as the other news brought to my attention by a post in today's Reddit's r/YSK, that if you use Adblock, your gmail can be closed. In the new TOS of Youtube [1], it states that if your account is not deemed commercially viable, your Google account (i.e. your Gmail, your Google Photos, your Google Drive, etc.) can be closed down: YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’…

This makes me want to ditch gmail to prevent accidentally getting my account closed, say for using Youtube while I have Adblock installed in my browser. I do have personal email on a domain I own, but it will be a lot of work to update my e-mail address with each service.

It took me about a year before I stopped getting any legitimate email at my gmail address. Start changing everything you can to your new email address at a domain that you own, and start forwarding your gmail to it. Every time a legitimate message comes in to your old gmail address, tell that person about your new email address, or update your email address with that service.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by The_rationalist »

petetnt wrote: post #396
The_rationalist wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cosmetic filters will still be needed on the browser.

Dumb question but could you do DLL injections à la video game hacks for the cosmetic filters?

Interesting question, honestly I don't know.

BTW I can see that you are French ^^

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by mrmuagi »

MrMember wrote: post #378
woodrowbarlow wrote: post #377

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just one more reason i continue to recommend that youtube is greatly improved by signing out. none of the signin-walled "features" are worth it anyway. comments are a banal wasteland, votes mean nothing for creator visibility, subscribing doesn't mean you'll see new videos when they're released, algorithm-driven recommendations actively harm diverse content discoverability...

I don't even visit the YouTube site that often anymore. I've set up a script to use youtube-dl to download new videos from channels I like on a daily basis.

Youtube-dl saved my youtube experience, as I have many playlists that have actually gotten entries deleted somehow, and I had then no recourse into recovering my playlist (often the uploader or another youtube denizen just re-uploads it, but I lost all information about the video).
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