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iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

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Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#431

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I dunno. Don't American's bleep their TV shows?

Only on over the air, and if it's only the word "fuck"

Um....No. George Carlin even did a very famous stand up routine about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words

A few years ago Jon Stewart (late night cable) played a clip of the routine and they were all bleeped except for one.

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#432
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I don't see this story going anywhere positive for Garadget. Blocking functionality because of a bad review? This will backfire horribly.

They didn't block it because of the review. Read the stuff in the link and not just the headline.

You've been shilling in this thread, and avoided answering the question "are you affiliated with them?"

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#433

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Return the product if you're not happy then. You're not entitled to a service, only the piece of hardware.

At once, your majesty. But seriously, it's not you or the creator's call whether I have to return the product. I don't have to return it if I gave it a bad review. Just because I bought something from a store doesn't mean I'm now accountable to the creator. I hope you don't have to test your theory in court, because you will lose - because the law is clear on this matter.

> I hope you don't have to test your theory in court, because you will lose - because the law is clear on this matter.

The law is clear. You can keep the product. You are not entitled to services. You can keep your lump of silicon, that is all you are entitled to.

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

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post #289

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And? That's how it works.

He doesn't like the customer's tone of voice so he can decide to turn the customer's device into a $99 paperweight? That's not at all how it works. You're being strangely defensive over this whole thread and I'm going to echo another commenter in asking, are you affiliated with Garadget in any way?

That's how cloud services work. If you buy a cloud service, then F up with the cloud provider, your cloud device is worthless.

And there's really no problem with it, since you can get your money back. You don't lose any money.

> are you affiliated with Garadget in any way?

Let's say it's true. Would I say it, after going so far of somehow getting a 2843 days old HN account for it? Or let's say I'm not. Why would I even bother to answer to anyone but a moderator (who would probably send me an email in that case)? So, what's your point? Trying to discredit a discussion partner because you run out of arguments?

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#435
post #289

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And? That's how it works.

No. That's probably illegal. Don't break the law. It doesn't matter what fine print the customer signed, if the contract is illegal. Consumer protection laws protect us from this BS.

I don't think that point is as clear as you imagine. Really bricking a device may be illegal (and is probably already contested enough in front of a judge that a lawyer can tell you the details). But this device probably works 100% the same, just the server responds with "Not authorized". So in fact the device is still working perfectly fine.

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#436
post #51

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Well, he's also offering a refund. Not sure where the problem is in that case with the service provider's response. If you have sh*tty customers it's smart to drop them fast and focus on your good customers.

> Well, he's also offering a refund. No, he isn't. He suggests returning the device to point of purchase, Amazon, who have no control over this situation.

Maybe Amazon is different in other countries (I doubt it), but in my country after ordering on Amazon you send stuff back to the seller, not to Amazon. The ticket for that is handled in Amazon's interface but the actual interaction happens with the seller.

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

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post #122

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I think many people here only read the headline and immediately start aiding the destruction of what seems to be a single person's business. I have experienced myself how painful it can be to stay polite towards a*hole customers, so as said in some comment: It's totally fine to quit a customer who acts like that and refund him.

You didn't answer the question. Are you affiliated with them?

I actually did by giving my reasons. Btw, if you are into these kind of theories: ALL my comments in this thread were exactly downvoted the same number.

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#439

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Their domain still leads to an indigogo page. People should avoid startups those use crowdfunding websites as risk free capital gainer preorder pages. They don't get proper investment for a reason.

> They don't get proper investment for a reason. That's not always true. Ergodox-ez.com has an awesome product (a keyboard) they funded through indiegogo. Not to mention basically every 3d printer company, even the VC funded ones. Crowdfunding (and pre-ordering in general) helps hardware startups raise the cash they need to manufacture a batch of product. Without it, they'd have to raise the full cost of the batch in…

Ergodox-ez.com sure make a big deal about being 'open source', yet I can't find a schematic, PCB design or anything related to this on their site. Perhaps I'm missing something?

What I do see is they use an open source firmware, used on several other keyboards.

Re: iPhone App will not stay open - just flashes when trying to launch

#440
post #41

I don't know why many comments about "the customer is clearly an asshole, therefore he deserves the lock not working/the company has the legal rights to do so blah blah" are modded so high right now. Even when the customer is an asshole, that has absolutely nothing to do with a security device betraying him or not. I'm very glad that the customer is now only denied access to the app. I can see one day a company that…

I agree mostly, except the last part about DRM. I don't like DRM either, but this isn't DRM, this is a case where a physical device is dependent upon a cloud/internet service to actually function. So if the company either goes belly-up, or (as in this case) decides to capriciously revoke your device's access, you're left with a device that simply does not function. Personally, I think this is terrible, but I think th…

you mean the device licensor, read your EULAs next time :)
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