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Post by ben_w »

trumpdong wrote: post #380
ben_w wrote: post #327

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Trying to imagine how, and the only thing I can think of is that technically you can write a contract on anything? And possibly a cheque, too, because a the cheques in a chequebook are just a standardised IOU form with exactly the same legal weight as if it was done by hand? (Vague memory that someone used this to avoid paying a bill, because refusing a cheque when offered counted as discharging the debt it represent…

Just gotta bribe the right judge. My toilet paper says you owe me $10,000 and the judge agrees.

In this thread's context, the "constitution" is the kind of thing which is supposed to make that not happen.

Famously bereft of a written constitution, the closest single document along these lines which the UK had for a long time was ("the") Magna Carta, which basically exists because King John's lords were tired of King John directing the courts that King John personally owned to not hear cases against himself.

But if your point is that some constitutions may as well be toilet paper for how much the people with power care about their contents, then I agree.

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Post by hparadiz »

ben_w wrote: post #414
hparadiz wrote: post #384

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My argument is our basic NHS level care costs us less labor to reach and that the rest of that spend is a luxury on nicer facilities, equipment, rooms, food, nurses and other personal which we are happy to spend because it's a luxury we have that only the rich in the UK can afford while in the US at least the middle class can reach that level. We also classify these costs as healthcare when you might classify them in…

> My argument is our basic NHS level care costs us less labor to reach and that the rest of that spend is a luxury on nicer facilities, equipment, rooms, food, nurses and other personal which we are happy to spend because it's a luxury we have that only the rich in the UK can afford while in the US at least the middle class can reach that level. We also classify these costs as healthcare when you might classify them…

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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by nosioptar »

ssl-3 wrote: post #93
jiin wrote: post #9

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Or you could just choose not to use pornography. Then you don't have to verify your age to these websites. I get that some people have a behavioural addiction to this harmful content but perhaps the age verification is an opportunity to step back and reconsider.

Agreed. It's important to remain pure. I usually just use the Book of Mormon and that typically helps me get it done well-enough. But when that doesn't work, I allow myself some different material. The New Haven Code of 1656 is my reserve favorite and I have a laminated copy of the Comstock Act of 1873 on-hand for unusually-tricky edge cases.

I tried tBoM, but always succumb to weakness when it gets to talking about how ripped Nephi is.

I tried changing the page, Helaman's 2,000 stripper warriors are even hotter.

Stupid sexy Mormonism...

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by joe463369 »

hparadiz wrote: post #241
mattlondon wrote: post #219

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I think you have your numbers backwards regarding health. The US spends more (16% Vs 10 GDP), but preventable mortality, life expectancy, people living with chronic conditions etc are all worse than other developed nations: https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/05/26/a-comparative-ana... Plus the risk of being a victim of violence is higher in the US - you are 400% to 600% more likely to be murdered in the US than the…

Why do people on HN throw these stats out comparing poor people to poor people? We are all tech workers on HN. I'm not living in Alabama. When I compare my living situation I'm comparing my premium healthcare in Los Angeles to whatever the fuck you guys are doing. Pretty much all those stats are irrelevant. Seriously 62k? Try 3.5 times that and then you're in the ballpark. My healthcare expenses for the past few year…

Some 'people on HN' might have some slight sympathy for people aren't wealthy tech workers. Maybe even the sort of people who live in Alabama.

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Post by foldr »

jadamson wrote: post #394
lwhi wrote: post #314

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> You're saying that allegations of two-tier policing are far-right disinformation. No. I am saying that this one event is being used as ammunition by racist organisations to further their aims. One officer was filmed on body cam arresting Henry Nowak. I am referring to him. I am utterly disgusted by the number of frankly racist people using this as a reason to prevent our society being celebrated for its diversity.…

> I am saying that this one event is being used as ammunition by racist organisations to further their aims. That much follows as sure as night follows day. I'm reminded of the riots after the police killing of Mark Duggan [1]. Those who understood themselves to be on the receiving end of policed mistreatment latched on to it, using it as an excuse to loot and start fires, regardless of the fact that Duggan was lawfu…

The fundamental issue isn’t that the police believed Person A rather than Person B when they first arrived at the scene - the police can be misled like anyone else. The issue is that they failed to properly check on someone who claimed to have been stabbed. That is something that they should do regardless of whether they find the claim credible or not. There is certainly no police policy which prevents them from doing this when the victim is white. And indeed, one could say that the British police are commendably balanced on this point, as (in flagrant contradiction to that one out of context sentence that people have been quoting, from a document that’s not even a policy document) they have also have a track record of ignoring the pleas of plenty of people of color, disabled people, etc. etc. who have appealed to them for medical attention.

> There's an outside chance you're correct that the police's treatment of Nowak was simply incompetence, but paired with the explicit policy to treat racial groups differently to one another, that is not how it will be perceived.

That’s how it will be perceived if Reform’s shit-stirring is ultimately successful. But actually, my sense is that Reform are out of step with the majority of the British public on this one. I don’t think a majority of British people will buy their narrative; it’s too openly opportunistic and divisive, and based on twitter-brained logic that only the terminally online could find persuasive. It’s telling that even Kemi Badenoch wouldn’t go along with them on this one.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by joe463369 »

hparadiz wrote: post #156
antiloper wrote: post #31

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

Watching all UK folks in denial is too funny.

It's not denial. Nothing's happened.

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Post by rationalist »

QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #72
mjlee wrote: post #30

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When I was in high school I brought in a copy of The Hacker's Dictionary to show a friend. A teacher saw it. A few weeks later there was a hacking incident! The shared spreadsheet of every pupil's grades that every teacher had full access to was modified, boosting the grades of some students (including me) and lowering the grades of others (including people I didn't get on with). I was immediately sent home during th…

When I was in middle school I used to download keygens and cracks for programs from the school computer and take them with me home on a floppy disk because I didn’t have internet at home. One of the websites I downloaded keygens and cracks from was called TheBugs.WS. Another pupil saw that I was downloading keygens and stuff and tried to rat me out to one of the teachers saying like “hey look at his screen, he can’t…

Obviously that teacher never tried to acces the WhiteHouse by assuming it was a dotcom (a porn site back then, now a crappy election betting site).

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Post by croes »

yubblegum wrote: post #412
croes wrote: post #366

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So you can’t do a good thing just because you do other bad things? So you must be either a saint (who also did a lit of bad things) or the devil himself (who punishes bad people). You could just simply acknowledge the fact that Britain was one of the first major powers to abolish slave trade and later slavery across its empire, and it actively pushed other countries to follow.

>> the country that has done the most for the cause of freedom That is the claim that has been challenged by many here. It's just too much, and I am not even Irish ..

in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

I guess the track record of other countries isn’t much better

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