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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

backscratches wrote: post #342
adrian_b wrote: post #175

Motorola was already in my top position in the list of possible upgrades for my old (ASUS) phone, for providing at moderate prices USB 3 connectivity and DisplayPort 1.4 that allows the connection of an external monitor, for a desktop mode. With this announcement, Motorola has consolidated its top position, making it unlikely for me to choose something else.

Unfortunately many Motorola phones (even flagship) do NOT do video out.

the MOTOROLA ATRIX [1] paired with its Ubuntu lapdock [2] ... from 15 years ago (2011) would like to disagree!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapdock

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by esperent »

noisem4ker wrote: post #225
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean desktop mode? I though only Samsung Android phones had that, called Samsung DeX.

The first-party desktop mode that was introduced in Android 16 last year. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/06/developer-...

A lot of phones, including latest flagships, don't support this, unfortunately.

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Post by EvanAnderson »

A Moto phone with GrapheneOS and the "chop / chop" gesture[0] to turn on the flashlight would be a dream.

I'm, shamefully, an adherent to Moto hardware now because of that silly gesture. I use it multiple times a day. I had a friend with a late model Pixel try to replicate the functionality and he couldn't come up with a way to do it. It's silly, but it's too handy.

[0] https://en-us.support.motorola.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1...

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by [deleted] »

rand846633 wrote: post #326
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #102

Why team up with a hardware manufacturer that is forced to comply with both the American Security Chip Act and the American Cloud Act? I thought GrapheneOS was all about privacy and non compliance with Big Tech?

Would be interesting indeed to hear what the implications of what you bring up are. Anyone knowing enough to speculate?

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by bikelang »

sho_hn wrote: post #396
Zak wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just the average consumer. I continue to be surprised that so many developers and other tech nerds - the type who post on HN - chose and continue to choose the iPhone over Android when Apple dictates what apps they can install and locks third-party accessories out of certain features. Current times do present the opportunity to raise awareness of the issue though. App store bans for apps like ICEBlock, and v…

> so many developers and other tech nerds - the type who post on HN The average developer stopped being a "tech nerd" around 2010 or so. I think older developers sometimes don't understand how the ranks have swollen and how many, many more people are in software now that don't have the "I was a nerdy kid in the 90s, loved computers and chose the career" upbringing. The average developer now has a MacBook, went to a b…

This is such an uncharitable take of your peers.

The issue is not pedigree - it’s that many folks have an incurious mind.

I certainly know many folks with a CS degree that are incurious and frankly terrible engineers. I also know bootcampers that are extremely curious, have a lifelong-learner attitude, and are subsequently great engineers.

There’s nothing special taught in the vaunted halls of a CS undergrad that can’t be trivially learned off YouTube.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by rubzah »

coldpie wrote: post #386
raffael_de wrote: post #212

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and a 4 to 5 inch display ...

They do make one with a 4" display! I'm a small phone liker. After spending years on an iPhone 13 Mini and wishing it was a little smaller, I got a Motorola Razr Ultra last year and I've been very happy with it. It has a fully functional 4" external display, and unfolds into a full-size smartphone/phablet display for when you need it. I use the little external display probably 80% of the time, but it's handy to unfol…

Flip phone user for five years, will never get a slab again. It's weird to me more people don't use them, I guess they're expensive still.

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Post by fsflover »

xandrius wrote: post #118
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

Yep, first party open source and long support. If this existed, you'll get people recommending it to their parents. Now the only thing I can honestly recommend is a UbuntuTouch phone but mostly to devs, for now.

Why not postmarketOS or Mobian?

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by dj0k3r »

neya wrote: post #216
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

This is just developer fantasy. The average consumer doesn't care even one bit. Is the phone smooth? Does it have a good camera? Does it have a good battery? Does it last more than 2 years? Go to some developing countries around Asia and you'll be surprised how people prioritise features when buying a phone vs developed ones. The developing countries account for most of the sales of most phone manufacturers. Phones t…

> countries around Asia and you'll be surprised how people prioritise features

While this is true, I can also say that the other minority becomes large enough for any OEM to care. It might even drawf market size of other markets when only compares in numbers.

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Post by antiframe »

LtWorf wrote: post #405
fsflover wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you can't get the freedom without fighting for it?

People do need to rent apartments and such things, it gets cold in sweden.

I think they meant that if there is a single identity app you should petition your government to require it to run on any mobile phone rather than require one or two American companies to dictate what it can run on. Or better yet, allow people without mobile phones to also be able to rent apartments.

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Post by Zak »

afavour wrote: post #415
Zak wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just the average consumer. I continue to be surprised that so many developers and other tech nerds - the type who post on HN - chose and continue to choose the iPhone over Android when Apple dictates what apps they can install and locks third-party accessories out of certain features. Current times do present the opportunity to raise awareness of the issue though. App store bans for apps like ICEBlock, and v…

> I continue to be surprised that so many developers and other tech nerds - the type who post on HN - chose and continue to choose the iPhone over Android when Apple dictates what apps they can install and locks third-party accessories out of certain features. I bought a Nexus One the day it became available, installed endless third party ROMs on it, tweaked it to my heart's desire. Got a Nexus 4, then 5. Today I hav…

> Also FaceTime for calling distant relatives.

Are your relatives unable to install Signal or WhatsApp?

Yes is a possible answer here, but installing a messaging/video-call app seems pretty low effort. I've had several elderly relatives do it and none required hand-holding, just the name of the app.

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