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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by MangoToupe »

Flatterer3544 wrote: post #376
MangoToupe wrote: post #361

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Ok, why doesn't denmark finance birundi? > Well, some justice have been sought and won And yet denmark hasn't burned. How do you remediate this contradiction? > To me it seems like an attempt at distraction to clump together the treatment of the Mau Mau and the nuking of Algeria with Denmark's relation with Greenland. Believe me, britain deserves far worse than just being burned down. But denmark still must face just…

You make it sound that the brits were the bad guys, when it was an elite top % pulling the strings and the rest were mostly trying to make ends meet. But yes agree, the elite extracting wealth from the colonies back in the days, and still are extracting wealth from your average Joe, deserves far worse.

Colonies can only address this at the granularity of the nationalism with which they were presented. If every-day brits don't want to be blamed, they need to make their own rebellion to show they aren't party to the evil done in their name.

I think this is true of my own country (the US), and it's hopeless. I think most americans are ok with the evil done in their name. I wish I had better advice or insight.

But pretending like two imperial powers arguing over greenland is some great injustice just spits in the face of humanity. Have some fucking dignity. Greenland deserves better than to be treated like a piece of property

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Post by MangoToupe »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #408
MangoToupe wrote: post #389

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You got it baby, free hawaii

How do Hawaiians feel about this? Just in case: what would you consider a valid qualification for Hawaiians, for their opinion on this matter to be material? And how many of them support an independent Hawaii? I looked online but didn’t find any hard numbers, only vague movements. Scottish independence for example seems to have substantial , if minority , support. If the same cannot be said for Hawaii, then this comm…

Hawaiian land is being sold off regardless of democratic legitimacy.

Perhaps it is better to argue they should exercise indigenous control than wait until the concept is a farce

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Post by mdhb »

ben_w wrote: post #250
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #88

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Europe will just end up doing whatever is cheapest. It's the same story as always. They'll say some stuff publicly but they'll quietly come back to American tech once they see the price tag difference. They're very cost sensitive and their investors are extremely risk-averse.

> They're very cost sensitive and their investors are extremely risk-averse. Being risk-averse unfortunately now means "avoid the USA".

With good cause

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Post by mdhb »

andsoitis wrote: post #349
victorbjorklund wrote: post #330

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US says that Europe is their number one enemy. Using American tech is the most risky thing you can do since Trump declared that they are now a hostile enemy with intents of overthrowing European democracies.

> US says that Europe is their number one enemy. Pardon my French, but where do you get that nonsense from?

Without getting hung up on the exact phrase “number 1”. It’s very literally one of the biggest things in official US national security strategy right now and some leaks of the non-public version talk about explicit plans to try and destroy the EU. So semantics aside, the overall point stands on solid ground.

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Post by mdhb »

bogeholm wrote: post #248
mathgradthrow wrote: post #243

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Is it actually anti-europe to ask europe to meet its NATO obligations?

Whataboutism. The linked articles are not about NATO obligations.

The American public schooling system in action yet again here. 3rd grade reading comprehension in no way stops them from loudly proclaiming some of the dumbest shit possible.

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Post by Wubdidu »

tormeh wrote: post #167
TrickyRick wrote: post #75

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SAP needs servers though, if they buy SAP hosted in AWS that kind of defeats the purpose.

Indeed. And SAP has no cooperation with any European cloud providers, afaik. It's the big three plus alibaba. SAP wants to move away from on-prem, but I guess it has a solution for critical applications. Maybe that can be shoehorned onto OVH or something.

Not entirely true. You can do SAP RISE on Telekom (not Open Telekom Cloud, forgot the name of the thing) and as far as I know STACKIT is currently in beta. Apparently the AWS Sovereign Cloud will be possible as well. Its just way more expensive because Microsoft and AWS use their monetary power to give SAP better offers (just guesswork obviously, its not like SAP would tell you).

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Post by breve »

pigggg wrote: post #278
ulfw wrote: post #145

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No, not a lot as the EU has two very competitive providers in Ericsson and Nokia

They're both very expensive and the carriers primarily care about cost and features. And huawei will take a dozen devs, give them a one way ticket and put them in a hotel room near a customer to grind our whatever feature needed to seal the deal. I remember years ago talking to some EU telecom VP who was on the engineering side that said "id buy from North Korea if the price was right". We live in new times anyways -…

> some EU telecom VP who was on the engineering side that said "id buy from North Korea if the price was right".

Then he has no principle and cannot be trusted.

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Post by saubeidl »

MangoToupe wrote: post #420
saubeidl wrote: post #370

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It is European right now. It's under European sovereignty.

No, it's a colony. Calling it european is an affront to everyone with the ability to read

A European colony is European.

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Post by bostik »

Angostura wrote: post #217
petcat wrote: post #80

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Doesn't Europe actually have a lot of Chinese equipment in their telecom infrastructure? Is this an effort just to try not to make that mistake again?

The UK certainly ripped out a lot of Huawei equipment. Which is why our cellular coverage is a bit shitty these days

I moved to UK in late 2013 and to be fair, from my observation the cellular coverage in the country has always been more than just a bit shitty.

Incidentally, the voice call quality in the UK is also really crappy. Operators compress/downsample the audio stream to the very edge of recognisability, because investing in sufficient infrastructure to support higher bandwidths is expensive.

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