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Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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I'm still struggling to imagine a world where predicting the next pixel wins over over building a deterministic thing that is then ran. Eg: Using AI to generate textures, wire models, motion sequences which themselves sum up to something that local graphics card can then render into a scene. I'm very much not an expert in this space, but to me it seems if you do that, then you can tweak the wire model, the texture, m…

Pass-through AR that does more than add a few things to the scene or very crude relighting from a scan mesh. Classic methods aren't great at it and tend to feel like you are just sticking some of of place objects on top of things. apple gives a lighting estimate to make it sit better in the scene, but may already be using some AI for that (I think it's just a cube map or a spherical harmonic based thing). But we'll want to do much more than matching lighting.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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I'm still struggling to imagine a world where predicting the next pixel wins over over building a deterministic thing that is then ran. Eg: Using AI to generate textures, wire models, motion sequences which themselves sum up to something that local graphics card can then render into a scene. I'm very much not an expert in this space, but to me it seems if you do that, then you can tweak the wire model, the texture, m…

> I'm still struggling to imagine a world where predicting the next pixel wins over building a deterministic thing that is then run.

Disconcerting that it's daydreaming rather than authoring?

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In the future, everyone will have their own ai agents capable of generating music to their own tastes. They won't be using spotify. The future with AI is not going to be our current world with some parts replaced by AI. It will be a whole new way of life.

My prediction is that personal generation is going to be niche forever, for purely social reasons. The demand for fandoms and fan communities seems to be essentially unlimited. Big artists have big fandoms, tiny ones have tiny fandoms, but none of that works with personalized generations.

You can have a million 'social' followers now, all posting on how your personally generated music is great, along with posting their faces and lives.

What does social mean in a future that could just simulate it.

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I see two ways this is going to go: 1. Universal Basic Income as we're on the way to a post-scarcity society. Unlikely to actually happen due to greed. 2. We take inspiration from the french revolution and then return to a simpler time.

> Unlikely to actually happen due to greed. Greed makes no sense in a truly post scarcity society. There is no scarcity from which to take in a zero sum way from another. Status is the real issue. Humans use status to select sexually, and the display is both competitive and comparative. It doesnt matter absolutely how many pants you have, only that you have more and better than your competition. I actually think this…

Greed makes no sense, yet here we are.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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My prediction is that personal generation is going to be niche forever, for purely social reasons. The demand for fandoms and fan communities seems to be essentially unlimited. Big artists have big fandoms, tiny ones have tiny fandoms, but none of that works with personalized generations.

You can have a million 'social' followers now, all posting on how your personally generated music is great, along with posting their faces and lives. What does social mean in a future that could just simulate it.

Well, maybe. But there are overwhelmingly large numbers of people who want to be in a fandom, and that means being fans of some shared thing. Maybe that shared thing will be AI generated, but it won't be a world of solipsists.

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> Rockstar would be nerd-sniped on GTA6 by a world model I'm having trouble parsing your meaning here. GTA isn't really a "drive on the street simulator", is it? There is deliberate creative and artistic vision that makes the series so enjoyable to play even decades after release, despite the graphics quality becoming more dated every year by AAA standards. Are you saying someone would "vibe model" a GTAish clone wit…

Probably depends on how you engage with GTA. “Drive on the street simulator” along with arrays of weapons and explosions is the majority of my hours in GTA. I despise the creative and artistic vision of GTA online, but I’m clearly in a minority there gauging by how much money they’ve made off it.

I took the "creative and artistic vision" line to refer to the story mode.

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Is it actually unbelievable? It's basically what every major AI lab head is saying from the start. It's the peanut gallery that keeps saying they are lying to get funding.

>It's basically what every major AI lab head is saying from the start. I suppose it depends what you count as "the start". The idea of AI as a real research project has been around since at least the 1950s. And I'm not a programmer or computer scientist, but I'm a philosophy nerd and I know debates about what computers can or can't do started around then. One side of the debate was that it awaited new conceptual and…

The start of deep neural networks, ie AlexNet
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