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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by brailsafe »

drorco wrote: post #362
radlad wrote: post #303

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Why does the screen need USB-C support? I imagine you'd use a Thunderbolt/USBC-DisplayPort cable or similar.

For cases when you have let's say a gaming PC and a Macbook connected to the same screen. You want a USB-C port so the Macbook will get everything from a single USB-C port (power included), but you also want your gaming PC to benefit from a high performance monitor with high refresh rates on a DisplayPort/HDMI connection.

Ya agreed. I have a similar setup and would love an easy was for both to use the same screen and peripherals

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by srvmshr »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #379
tonguez wrote: post #247

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M1 mini with 16GB RAM (most possible RAM): $1100 entry studio: $2000 That's a pretty big gap. Basically it means you have to shell out $2000+ if you want to do video editing on any M1 mac. Buying a brand new computer to do video editing that has only 16GB RAM in 2022 is unjustifiable. $2k+ is too much for most people especially young "creatives" that are making entertainment (videos). Lots of people here make hundred…

> 16GB RAM in 2022 is unjustifiable. MacOS on ARM handles memory differently, try it you might like it. They can only print so many M1max chips at a time, they want to sell them in a high margin machine. Give em a year and the M1max will trickle down to the mini.

> MacOS on ARM handles memory differently, try it you might like it.

I already use the 16 GB 13". And while your comment is correct for most consumer applications regarding memory compression, it may not work that well in numerical computing on Python or C++ e.g. where a lot of RNGs are used or 2D/3D arrays are juggled. Just clarifying. Your statement is mostly true - but not always. Having a higher RAM machine could help definitely.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

areoform wrote: post #22

I would like to highlight just how much Apple is focusing on their customers and use cases right now. It seems that they're targeting products to what their professional customers actually want. And in this case, it's a 3.7" little thing that can process 18 streams of 8k video (fully specced out). That's kinda crazy, and they're doing it at a price point that's competitive compared to all of the companies out there.…

> I'd love to see what they have in store for designers and programmers next.

We're not really their target audience. Back when they had a rack server, they had something that looked good to us, but we're not really the ones that will buy a maxxed-out Studio.

It's an interesting machine. It definitely is aimed at folks that would get Pros, beforehand. With the hint dropped at the end of the Studio presentation, I suspect that they may announce some crazy Pro, in the coming months.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by alwillis »

egypturnash wrote: post #410
qbasic_forever wrote: post #371

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Beautiful high resolution and crisp text rendering. I want looking at a dense page of code to look as beautiful and comfortable as reading a magazine. A comfortable keyboard and trackpad are a must too. Give me as much battery life as possible--at least a day or more. Performance, memory, and storage are less of a bottleneck these days and today's higher end specs are generally good enough.

I want looking at a dense page of code to look as beautiful and comfortable as reading a magazine I am trying to imagine what a page of code laid out by a professional designer would look like and I can hear a million programmers screaming bloody murder in my head about the thoughtful use of whitespace, proportional-width fonts (even though they are ones chosen to clearly differentiate between confusing characters li…

I am trying to imagine what a page of code laid out by a professional designer would look like and I can hear a million programmers screaming bloody murder in my head about the thoughtful use

There are beautiful programmer fonts nowadays that look amazing on Apple's high resolution screens.

There are several GUIs for Vim/Neovim that take advantage of the GPU and the text rendering abilities of modern computers in general and Macs in particular [1].

And once you get used to seeing your code this way, it's hard to go back.

[1]: https://github.com/neovide/neovide

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by go_prodev »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #242
cj wrote: post #197

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> $8k for 128GB RAM, 8 TB solid state storage Maybe not, but 32GB RAM + 512GB SSD for $2k is a pretty competitive price point.

a 512 gb ssd is kinda inexcusable in a machine that costs more than $1000 1tb of ssd is only around $100.

$600 extra for a 2tb drive. So they're just giving them away now? /s

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by youngtaff »

Boy is that an ugly box… the proportions seem all wrong to me - looks like they just stacked a bunch on Mac Mini’s (which has pretty nice proportions)

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by jazzyjackson »

tonguez wrote: post #397
jazzyjackson wrote: post #379

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> 16GB RAM in 2022 is unjustifiable. MacOS on ARM handles memory differently, try it you might like it. They can only print so many M1max chips at a time, they want to sell them in a high margin machine. Give em a year and the M1max will trickle down to the mini.

"MacOS on ARM handles memory differently, try it you might like it." Wow, you sure have given me a lot to think about.

lol, if you're being sarcastic all I can say is I don't get a commission

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by schleck8 »

criddell wrote: post #307
tonguez wrote: post #298

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It's cheap for what it is. If you need a machine like this, then what else could you buy? The Studio starts at $2k. If you are going to use it for the next 4 years, that's less than $1.50 / day. No trust fund required.

32 GB of unspecified frequency ram? 512 GB of unspecified speed and type ssd?

That's not a 2000 dollar configuration. For reference, that memory capacity costs 120 euros with 3200 Mhz

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by [deleted] »

srvmshr wrote: post #422
jazzyjackson wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 16GB RAM in 2022 is unjustifiable. MacOS on ARM handles memory differently, try it you might like it. They can only print so many M1max chips at a time, they want to sell them in a high margin machine. Give em a year and the M1max will trickle down to the mini.

> MacOS on ARM handles memory differently, try it you might like it. I already use the 16 GB 13". And while your comment is correct for most consumer applications regarding memory compression, it may not work that well in numerical computing on Python or C++ e.g. where a lot of RNGs are used or 2D/3D arrays are juggled. Just clarifying. Your statement is mostly true - but not always. Having a higher RAM machine could…

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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by radlad »

drorco wrote: post #362
radlad wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the screen need USB-C support? I imagine you'd use a Thunderbolt/USBC-DisplayPort cable or similar.

For cases when you have let's say a gaming PC and a Macbook connected to the same screen. You want a USB-C port so the Macbook will get everything from a single USB-C port (power included), but you also want your gaming PC to benefit from a high performance monitor with high refresh rates on a DisplayPort/HDMI connection.

Isn't this what a dock is for? Are you treating your monitor itself as the dock? I still don't see why the monitor itself needs USB-C support.

I use a Lenovo Thunderbolt dock for both my M1 16" MBP and a Lenovo laptop running Linux. It runs 2 x DisplayPort monitors, mouse, keyboard, and webcam.

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