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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by kstenerud »

zapdrive wrote: post #395
kstenerud wrote: post #324

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Yes, so they don't contribute to the clogging of hospitals (90% of COVID related hospitalizations are unvaccinated people). Stop being so selfish and get vaccinated.

Not all unvaccinated people end up in a hospital though. So aren't we discriminating against them? It's equivalent to saying that lets bar all male Canadian citizens from entering Canada, since over 90% of rapes are committed by men!

> Not all unvaccinated people end up in a hospital though. So aren't we discriminating against them?

We absolutely are, and I applaud the effort.

If they were fighting against rabies or measles or tetanus vaccinations, I'd say "Good on you! Do your part to clean out the shallow end of the gene pool."

But once their stupidity endangers others, we as civilized people step in and stop them.

When unvaccinated COVID patients flood the hospitals, it means that other people with serious or life threatening medical situations can't get the quality treatment they need. At this point, the antivax stupidity crosses over into danger-to-society.

So yeah, block them until they no longer pose a threat.

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Post by monkeybutton »

advisedwang wrote: post #358
monkeybutton wrote: post #41

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The median is $50 and the 95th percentile is $200 so it's mostly small donations with a few (22) donations over 5K. Plus the one 215K whale.

What's the total number of donors / amount of donation? Apologies for not doing the research myself, I'm at work.

8.4M in donations plus another 0.57M going to GSG (not a bad racket eh?) over 92k rows. I'm using the word rows intentionally here because I can't make any claim about the number of actual individuals.

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Post by cf100clunk »

redisman wrote: post #406
cf100clunk wrote: post #389

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This type of revelation will likely be commonplace in the days/weeks ahead as militant extremists are exposed.

There will always be some opportunistic groups looking to cause more mayhem in chaotic situations like this. These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no?

I got voted down for saying what you did but in a more terse, direct fashion. Too much heat in here with one-day HNers, yourself excepted.

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Post by busterarm »

BoorishBears wrote: post #231
busterarm wrote: post #198

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> Isn't that just an open fact? No, it isn't. Not in their own words. If you've only been watching CBC/CNN, well, that's a big part of the problem then.

This doesn't feel like a reply in good faith. I mean it's easy enough to see the political aspect here isn't tied to the political leanings of news source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/freedom-convoy-trucker-canadas... I got the impression you were browbeating me for not intentionally ignoring very plain context as you did, and you seem to be confirming that.

Not a reply in good faith?

I stated from the beginning that this is a class issue and not a left/right one. You in your very first reply said "being objective here" and then went on some screed about how this is obviously left wing vs right wing politics.

Then I stated that if you look at the only actual interviews being done with these people and hear them in their own words they say that this is not a left wing vs right wing thing here and you say that I'm commenting in bad faith.

Not anywhere did I tell you to refer to Fox News as a source for content. You picked that source entirely on your own to suit your argument. As myself and others have mentioned in the thread, the only long form interviews being done with these people are being done by independent journalists on youtube.

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Post by gpm »

rajin444 wrote: post #400
gpm wrote: post #209

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Both the words "our government" (i.e. the current canadian government), and "that" are doing work. Neither examples of random governments committing significant crimes, nor of the Canadian government committing less significantly corrupt crimes, contradict the premise.

There is ample evidence of the Canadian government breaking the law for their own benefit and there is ample evidence for these occurrences being “significant”. And that’s not even taking into account that once trust is broken there are likely many more instances that aren’t known.

So by "significant" I'm excluding nonsense like this [1] where the government comes up with a creative (incorrect) interpretation of the law, and things like "a few rogue members of the government break the law" (e.g. [2]).

Neither of those would explain a government entity hacking this website to leak this data in an attempt to benefit the government.

I can't produce evidence that there isn't a history of actions like this, since my evidence really is just the lack of evidence. Thus I'd ask you to produce the "ample evidence" you claim exists.

[1] https://www.thestar.com/politics/provincial/2020/09/04/ontar...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/17/canada-covid-c...

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Post by trhway »

canadianeh2 wrote: post #20

i have a 4 year old daughter in ontario who has never seen her friends faces or her teacher's face. she eats outside even when it's -20. as of today, no end in sight for these rules. why? it's shameful. im surprised the civil unrest in canada isnt worse.

In 1830 in Sebastopol it similarly took 2 years of pointless quarantine for people to rebel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevastopol_plague_uprising

The powers-to-be, civil and military, had great "business" going because of the quarantine by pillaging most of the funds the government provided for the city supplies (as the normal trade and supply was broken by the quarantine) while population was starving. The military doctors responsible for the quarantine received pay several folds higher than their usual pay. To maintain the supposed epidemic, ie. to generate sufficient number of deaths which were all chalked to plague even though in reality there weren't any plague cases, they for example forced people to sit in the sea in winter supposedly for public hygiene purposes, and naturally the malnourished population was getting ill and died in numbers. Anybody who showed any signs of any illness would be put into total quarantine into a hospital building with especially bad conditions which all but guaranteed the death.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

AlimJaffer wrote: post #397
throwaway894345 wrote: post #360

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I genuinely wonder how many of the people protesting actually know who this person is or what he believes (if the parent comment even accurately represents him--I really have no idea). Reminds me of how people would criticize BLM protests on the basis that some people in the BLM org had ties to communism--a very weak criticism considering how many better criticisms existed and how few of the protesters had related vi…

King is literally a founding convoy organizer who calls the shots and has a massive following and influence on the convoy members. His videos get 100's of thousands of views and he influenced the convoy 'manifesto' that they created to try to overthrow the government. Your comment shows you have done zero research into the matter. He's a vocal white supremacist who believes Islam has taken over the government to kill…

I don't doubt he's crazy, I do doubt his crazier views represent those of protesters more broadly. But in whichever case, the administration could take the wind out of his sails by yielding--no need to organize under King if the goal is accomplished. If the government didn't take an authoritarian stance in the first place, King would be marginal.

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Post by mywittyname »

adra wrote: post #380
inter_netuser wrote: post #268

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Conservatives are tabling a motion for a vote on removal of restrictions today. They’ve just performatively asked truckers to leave, so that they can always point to that later in their election campaign. Why would they want them to leave?they don’t.

I'm not a conservative mind you, but if your goal is to eventually get elected, you probably want to win on topics that will actually gain you votes vs. those that take them away. This is a wedge issue, and as such they're casting their votes to alienate a huge (likely majority) of voters away from your platform before the leader has even been selected. Secondly, this protest has been a huge news vacuum attracting no…

We all know that elected officials rarely get elected based on what they've actually done. They get elected by parroting the empty promises their party bosses tell them too.

Plus, politicians who do vote against their constituents' wishes can run in a district that's more friendly to that vote.

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Post by tagoregrtst »

mywittyname wrote: post #405
tagoregrtst wrote: post #269

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Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

Quarantine procedures were in place during Zika and Ebola outbreaks as well. And those procedures were substantially more harsh. Major metro hospitals had quarantine facilities brought in for Ebola. Patients were shoved into a mobile field hospital for 14 days. Not a single protest happened for that. The takeaway here is that none of this is new. People are mostly just pissed off that the quarantine procedures now ap…

Right, but the virus was contained. A quarantine when you have as much COVID as anyone is petty.

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Post by mattferderer »

nostrademons wrote: post #62
albroland wrote: post #36

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I'd think it's far more likely that GiveSendGo doesn't have the most sophisticated and well maintained tech stack and an exploit was easily found by hacktivists engaging in defacement and doxxing.

It was an open S3 bucket linked from the source code of the Freedom Convoy's donation page: https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/08/ottawa-trucker-freedom-con...

The Tech Crunch article is much more informative.

Not only was this S3 public for reading but sounds like you could create & update as well since 2018. It contained "50 gigabytes of files, including passports and driver licenses".

Per the Tech Crunch article:

> It’s not known for exactly how long the bucket was left exposed, but a text file left behind by an unnamed security researcher, dated September 2018, warned that the bucket was “not properly configured” which can have “dangerous security implications.”

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