If someone adds http://blah.us "> to their website, and that image is hosted in the United States, how does that not also violate French data protection? The user's browser makes a request to a US server, including the user's IP address. I legit do not understand how to make French people happy with these laws.
Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
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#422If someone adds http://blah.us "> to their website, and that image is hosted in the United States, how does that not also violate French data protection? The user's browser makes a request to a US server, including the user's IP address. I legit do not understand how to make French people happy with these laws.
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#424https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/2763052
I don't understand how this can be construed as tracking users.
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#425I think we (in the EU) will soon realise the bizarre consequences of these regulations. European startups will not be able to use standard SaaS or PaaS tools (like AWS, Azure, Mailchimp, PayPal etc) if they are based in the US (like most of them are). No cloud services, no Office 365 or Google Workspace. It will take forever to build up a similar ecosystem in Europe and I think most successful European entrepreneurs…
I'm so looking forward to that.
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>Yes, and when you go shopping and pay with cash in a store with no surveillance, your shopping habits are being shared against your wishes with a random third party (the external company bookkeeper). How, you don't enter your name when you pay with cash. Also in EU is illegal to share any personal info in physical world too, say you go and make a subscription to a gym they can't share your data with a third party un…
> How, you don't enter your name when you pay with cache. You don't need to be identified by name, just by a "fingerprint". If you go there regularly you will be identified by your "fingerprint". "Oh, it's that one privacy nut again who always wears sunglasses and a hoodie and only pays in cash"
And the store person will then what? Open excel wnd write "a dude with glasses was ehre at 12:51"? and then send the file to 100+ partners?
>You don't need to be identified by name, just by a "fingerprint". If you go there regularly you will be identified by your "fingerprint".
So the physical stores have some shady dudes attempting to lift fingerprints from money then some statistics guy try to put probabilities on which fingerprint matches which anonymous guy?
here in my country you still pay with cash and the store people put it in a machine combine it with money from other people, it will be a lot of work and risk for some shitty nano reward.
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#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to be experts in this stuff either just to put up a website somewhere, or worse keep up with every new ruling.
So true. I have a collection of small, US-focused websites. I'm investigating low-effort ways to geo-fence the EU. At some point it just becomes easier to ban Europeans, rather than keep up with whatever they'll come up with next. I saw in this thread that the Google fonts on my website are now a problem as well!? That's the first I heard of it.
This is the perfect example of why government oversight is needed. You run a bunch of websites and aren’t aware that you are inadvertently involved in violating the privacy of the people who visit your sites. How are non-technical people supposed to deal with this?
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#428For who needs a summary of what is happening in the EU [1] 1. Since 2020, it's illegal to send personal data to the US because of the invalidation of the Privacy Shield [2] 2. Google said it was okay in the EU to use anonymized IP addresses 3. The Austrian Data Protection Authority (DSB) [3] ruled differently and waived most of the arguments raised by Google. The DSB ruled that even anonymized IP addresses are person…
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> any data what-so-ever sent to a 3rd party without my knowledge or consent is too much So do you want “we want to load JS from a CDN like literally everyone does, is that okay” popups on every website?
> we want to load JS from a CDN like literally everyone does Well, carry on and load it, it's your server. Oh, wait, you mean you want ME to load it, into MY browser? That's a problem - my browser only loads JS from the origin server, and only if I give it explicit permission. As a developer, I deplore the use of CDNs to serve javascript libraries; you don't know what the CDN is going to serve to your users, it could…
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You raise an interesting point. Who's data is it? If you walk into a grocery store, and cameras record which aisle you walk down, which items you stop to look at and which things you buy. Is that legal? What if the cameras block out your face and all identifying features. Is that legal? Do you own a blob of a person walking down an aisle? Does the grocery store?
> If you walk into a grocery store, and cameras record In the EU, this would fall under the same data protection regulation as websites, and other local regulations regarding camera surveillance. In short, a store owner can't just secretly record customers.
Do they have to get explicit consent from each customer and save that info for audits?