I’m so disappointed to trade a multifunction thunderbolt port for a single use hdmi port when the same thing can be done with a £5 cable. I wish I could get that M1 pro max chip in my current MacBook Pro.
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#422And so ends the last of the Dark Days of Johnny Ive. Don't get me wrong: he innovated a lot. My theory is when Jobs died, he lost his counterbalance and his designs suddenly became without compromise (no that isn't a good thing). It's when we saw the 12" Macbook as the crusade for thinness at all costs (terrible performance, only one port, a terrible version of the macbook Air), the end of the Macbook Air (before get…
If they had made an M1 version of the Retina MacBook, there would've been no complaints about the performance.
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#423And so ends the last of the Dark Days of Johnny Ive. Don't get me wrong: he innovated a lot. My theory is when Jobs died, he lost his counterbalance and his designs suddenly became without compromise (no that isn't a good thing). It's when we saw the 12" Macbook as the crusade for thinness at all costs (terrible performance, only one port, a terrible version of the macbook Air), the end of the Macbook Air (before get…
The 12” MacBook was beloved by my elderly parents, who liked the low weight design and didn’t need to do anything other than check email and the web. Horses for courses. It was a great machine for the right audience.
I am perhaps biased on this issue because I'm still mad about what happened with the Macbook Air (13" in particular). I bought one in 2011 and it was an amazing laptop. It was a sweet spot of compromise on power and portability.
But the best feature was the price: there is a world of difference between a $1300 laptop and a $3500 laptop. Both are reasonable sums of money but the first is infinitely more "replaceable". You don't feel as bad about losing it or having it break.
What came after were much more expensive for features literally nobody wanted (eg loss of ports, loss of MagSafe, a significantly worse keyboard, more expensive repairs, Touch Bar) at a higher price. The 13" MBA languished for years just needing a display upgrade and that's it.
I knew it was the nail in the coffin when the 12" Macbook came out because Apple wouldn't have 11", 12" and 13" SKUs (they also had the 13" MBP by this point) and I was right.
So for me the 12" MBP was everything bad about the new Macbooks with worse performance and a higher price. I didn't (and still don't) really understand who the 12" Macbook solves a problem for.
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#424If they'd only add touchscreens. Sigh. Edit: Ouch, so many downvotes just for asking for a feature. Weird.
Not saying never though.
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#425It's great Apple is changing course back to where they were in 2013. What sucks is that all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market. For my money, I'm getting the Framework latop and I'm going to bite the bullet and run (in order of preference) FreeBSD, NixOS, or some Linux (Ubuntu, probably). I'm tired of Apple's shit.
> all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market In what sense? I'd bet they still sell for more than similar Windows laptops from those years.
They could have released another five years of evolutionary updates to the MBPr line instead, and then everything released between 2015 and the first half of 2020 would have looked less obsolete by comparison. i.e. There would be more demand in the used market for those machines if they were more cosmetically similar, even if lacking Apple Silicon and mini LED screens.
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#426Unpopular opinion: I am surprised by how much people like MagSafe. Charging over usb-c seems so ideal: one cable for all of my devices. And in a decade, the number of times I've tripped or banged on the cable in a way that having MagSafe would have made a difference is zero. Just trying to understand others I guess... What makes it so appealing, given you have to carry around more stuff to use it?
USB-C locks into place - not ideal for when someone trips on your cable and brings your laptop crashing into the hard floor.
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#427HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
Keyboard travel was fixed in 2020. I have the last Intel MBP, spec'd to last, with a physical escape key and Touch ID, and I love it.
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#428I was falling in love for this new macBook until I saw the notch. They had to add a notch to the screen. Why?!
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#429> magsafe can we still use an usb-c port for charging?
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#430Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.
I’m not excited about the price, but I’d totally take tiny bezels and an upgraded webcam in exchange for the notch. This looks like an excellent upgrade.