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Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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They’d probably only do it once. It builds character, similar to == in JS or PHP.

Says no one who has ever raised kids.

It really does depend upon the consequences of failure. Naturally, I want my children to learn to laugh at themselves when they fall off a bike.

In my case, I taught them this by laughing at myself when I fall off my bike, so I am modelling the outcome I want--them learning to try things, fail, and laugh--rather than some kind of "do as i say" style of parenting.

But even falling off bikes can have an unacceptable worst case. So we insist on helmets. It is bad parenting to allow undeveloped brains to suffer avoidable and entirely foreseeable concussions when reasonable precautions like proper protective gear exists.

I think that sums up our parenting approach: Model the risk tolerance we want to encourage, including both taking risks and managing the consequences intelligently.

After that, it's up to them.

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No. This is yet another urban myth. "Despite no concrete evidence to support the concept, belief in fan death persists to this day in Korea,[further explanation needed] and also to a lesser extent in Japan.[1][2][3]"

I'm sure the comment was sarcastic.

Haha I deserve the downvotes, it’s okay. I was being dumb because I thought it was funny.

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I'm sure the comment was sarcastic.

Haha I deserve the downvotes, it’s okay. I was being dumb because I thought it was funny.

It's a shame, I realised you were joking and I liked it. I think the idiomatic HN way to indicate this unambiguously but subtly is ending with "/s" for "sarcasm"

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Why is the medifyair your favorite? I wasn’t able to find any reviews I could trust on it.

Wirecutter has a review of one of the Medifyair models. They don't recommend it because it's too big, and overkill for their test apartment in New York City. It had the highest CADR in their testing. For a modest house in the Bay Area during fire season, we needed a high MERV furnace filter and also two filters similar to their recommended models, so I moved up to the Medifyair. It arrived after the last fires, but i…

I am not sure if wirecutter reviews can be trusted anymore.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25993512

I like consumer reports. You pay money for subscription and they provide you a non biased review.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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As a counter point: I've got the bottom ranked one in this and it definitely made a real impact on measurements. It's totally a budget bottom end, but article makes it sound useless which is not the case. That said I'd not recommend it.

If I had to do it again I'd skip straight to my latest purchase though: Xiaomi Mi 3H

Everything about it just screams OK this was designed by people that actually live with real air pollution.

I bought it because interwebs said one can home assistant it, but thus far I haven't. Seems usable without wifi frankly

Also I'd estimate effective filter surface area on the Xiaomi to be maybe 8x of the Levoit. Physically they're just different beasts

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Dyson filters aren't consumables. You wash them out and reuse them.

I'm pretty sure there aren't any reusable HEPA filters regardless of vendor. Lots of units will have a washable pre-filter, but that's to pick up big stuff and extend the life of the disposable part.

Dyson suggests replacing the filter every year but you could vacuum off the dust on the outside. Their vacuum cleaner filters are washable which is probably where OP got the idea.

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I still cannot get over this product. They whole selling point of a dyson fan is the 'air multiplier' tech, which creates a low pressure zone that propels air through the ring. According to dyson, this tech can move 15x more air than the fan in the base of the unit. Why in the world would you build an air filter around a system that does not directly interact with 93% of the air it moves? https://www.jameco.com/Jamec…

The fan also sucks compared to something like a Vornado. "Buffeting" of air is not a practical issue when using a fan - you want a fan that can create a lot of air flow. The Dyson fan comes across form first then making up reasons to explain the form retroactively. It feels like an interesting look is the goal rather than something that's actually better. Am I wrong about this? Do people that have the fan like it? Is…

Pro-tip: Medify sells factory refurbished units will full lifetime warranty for 50% off via ebay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/medifyair/m.html

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Dyson : Air Products :: Beats : Audio Products Pretty much every Dyson product I've used, from the public bathroom air "blades" to the vacuums, seem like a gimmicky, inferior products with a premium price tag. None of them do their intended job better than older, cheaper products in their category. I know James Dyson is regarded as a genius engineer, but the consumer product company bearing his name seems to be 99% m…

Check out AvE’s tear down of a $500 Dyson hair dryer.[1] He was expecting to ridicule it but was instead blown away by the engineering - tiny high torque zinc cast brushless DC motor, CNC-milled impeller, etc. It’s a good watch, including FLIR performance analysis, Fourier analysis of bearing noise, and more. In summary it’s definitely more engineering porn / extreme overkill than marketing bs. [1] https://youtu.be/j…

He also did tests and found that for drying hair it was no better than a regular one for a fraction of the price.

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Check out AvE’s tear down of a $500 Dyson hair dryer.[1] He was expecting to ridicule it but was instead blown away by the engineering - tiny high torque zinc cast brushless DC motor, CNC-milled impeller, etc. It’s a good watch, including FLIR performance analysis, Fourier analysis of bearing noise, and more. In summary it’s definitely more engineering porn / extreme overkill than marketing bs. [1] https://youtu.be/j…

He also did tests and found that for drying hair it was no better than a regular one for a fraction of the price.

That's kind of like saying an expensive designer shirt has the same insulation utility value as a cheaper generic one without the high class logo. Yes, this is obviously true.

In the actual consumer marketplace, luxury is more about exclusive high priced varieties that look different than it is about superior functionality.

People seem to be eternally shocked by this like we're living in some real life version of groundhog day. Almost as if believing consumers actually aren't infinitely rational utility maximizing automatons is some kind of impossible leap of faith.

Sorry, everything is absurd and there's nothing you can do about it.

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