We bought a larger Honeywell model for around 250 USD to help cut down on smokiness from woodstove, cat hair, and general dust. It works quite nicely, though it does have a high pitched whirr on higher settings. I don't have a PM monitor but anecdotally, it cuts through smokiness quite nicely.
Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
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Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting since the cordless vacuum (dyson v11) I use at home seem to work really well. The previous big corded model we had (Dyson DC33) was also built like a tank and served for almost 10 years before being passed on and still works so maybe I bought into marketing or maybe just different people have different experiences with Dyson products?
> and served for almost 10 years before being passed on Wait what, is ten years supposed to be a good lifetime for vacuum cleaners?
My mom still uses her Hoover from the early 70s. It's mostly metal and the bags for it are still readily available at the store.
A Dyson would probably clean better, but she's not going to upgrade until her old one breaks, which may be never.
That said, it hasn't been completely care free. My parents have had to replace the belts several times, but those parts that are easily available and very cheap. The light bulb is more of a special order part, but you can find them on the internet.
In comparison I bought a Dyson vacuum back in the early 2000s and it died due to the plastic at the joint between the handle and the body breaking after about 15 years. There was no repair that didn't cost more than a new vacuum cleaner. Also, the hose that connected to the corner brush never connected properly because of a factory error, so it always had tape holding the hose on.
But we replaced it with a Dyson ball vac because my wife was convinced they did a better job getting the dirt up. The ball vac is still going strong, although I think we may have shortened it's life at one point. It had gotten plugged up at one point and after my wife had tried to vacuum two rooms it suddenly shut off. I took it apart and removed the blockage but it still wouldn't turn on. So I used a shop vac on the blow side to force air through the motor to get it spinning again and discovered that it had probably thermally shut down because the air that came out the other side was so hot you couldn't put your hand over it. A few seconds of that and the vacuum turned back on and sent out a blazing hot stream of air for several minutes. I'm pretty sure if I took it apart I'd find cooked and now brittle plastic around the motor housing.
Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
#223Dyson : Air Products :: Beats : Audio Products Pretty much every Dyson product I've used, from the public bathroom air "blades" to the vacuums, seem like a gimmicky, inferior products with a premium price tag. None of them do their intended job better than older, cheaper products in their category. I know James Dyson is regarded as a genius engineer, but the consumer product company bearing his name seems to be 99% m…
I love the public bathroom Dyson thingies. They kinda became a standard for me now, love how quickly they dry hands. Way better than paper, towels or weak fans. But yeah, the other stuff is a bit gimmicky.
They are basically terrible, as they spread whatever is on your hands all over the room.
Paper is actually really effective, but only if you use it properly (don't crumple, always fold in 2, and wipe). 1 small piece is actually enough for both hands unless they are still dripping water.
Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
#224I still cannot get over this product. They whole selling point of a dyson fan is the 'air multiplier' tech, which creates a low pressure zone that propels air through the ring. According to dyson, this tech can move 15x more air than the fan in the base of the unit. Why in the world would you build an air filter around a system that does not directly interact with 93% of the air it moves? https://www.jameco.com/Jamec…
The fan also sucks compared to something like a Vornado. "Buffeting" of air is not a practical issue when using a fan - you want a fan that can create a lot of air flow. The Dyson fan comes across form first then making up reasons to explain the form retroactively. It feels like an interesting look is the goal rather than something that's actually better. Am I wrong about this? Do people that have the fan like it? Is…
Why is the medifyair your favorite? I wasn’t able to find any reviews I could trust on it.
Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any more info to back this? I am honestly curious- I bought a Dyson Animal about 12 years ago now, and its still going strong, and is the best vacuum I have ever used. Not having to keep bags around is nice too. Our usecase is relatively light- we have area rugs mostly, but its still head and shoulders above the previous vacuum we had, and any of the ones my parents had growing up.
The common reason I see for vacuum enthusiasts bashing on bagless units is air hygiene; as soon as you take out the canister, you're releasing a bunch of the vacuumed matter back into the air and breathing it into your lungs. This can probably be mitigated by carefully emptying the contents outdoors, but a lot of apartment-dwellers can't really do that.
Yes, emptying bagless units is a disgusting process. Even outdoors, it's not pleasant.
Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
#226Meanwhile I can vouch for the top performer in this test. I have multiple BlueAir filters in different sizes. They work very well, are reasonably quiet, look nice, and while they’re not cheap they aren’t the most expensive either. Most importantly I also measure particulate and the measurements back up what I can already tell just by smell: the BlueAir really do filter the air well.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's being questioned here is whether this product actually works (as air filter, as advertised).
While it may not be the best, it still does the job. My partner smokes indoor when I am not present and there's no smoke odor when I get home. According to the chart on their app, the peak low air quality from several cigarettes goes away within an hour or so. https://imgur.com/a/0qgwT1F
I've never claimed that it does not filter, just that it is a fraction as effective as the alternative at 5x the price. We heat with wood in the winter and some smoke escapes when you open the door to tend the fire. My $100 unit filters the living room back down to the baseline in ~15 min.
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#228I bought an expensive Dyson air purifier for a couple of reasons. It has a remote so I can turn it on from bed. It looks attractive. The sound profile is much different than a box fan for sleeping at night. It can analyze the temperature, humidity, and air quality in real time and turn on if it notices air quality is getting bad. It also oscillates. That said yes it was expensive, but it replaced needing a fan for co…
We're also in the same boat. It's something that stays out all the time. It's just unsightly to keep a box fan filter out all the time (we used one when we first moved out, and man, the back of the filter gets disgusting ). Looks do matter, and at least for our decor, there isn't really much choice. We pick our furniture based on how it mathes our interior decor, why would an air purifier be any different if it's out…
I suspect the answer here isn't "replace your dyson with a box fan and bungie cords" but - if you care about air filtration, buy a cheaper more effective one that looks ok.
It's not surprising a 3-in-1 product isn't very good at (at least) 1 of those functions.
Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fan also sucks compared to something like a Vornado. "Buffeting" of air is not a practical issue when using a fan - you want a fan that can create a lot of air flow. The Dyson fan comes across form first then making up reasons to explain the form retroactively. It feels like an interesting look is the goal rather than something that's actually better. Am I wrong about this? Do people that have the fan like it? Is…
Why is the medifyair your favorite? I wasn’t able to find any reviews I could trust on it.
I have a bunch of air filters (I live in the bay area during fire season).
Coway Air Mega
Coway Mighty
Blue Air
Medify Air
They're basically all equivalent and they all work.
The reason I like the Medifyair is because it can move the largest volume of air relative to those so it can clear a space quickly (and quietly). I also think it looks nice (though it is huge).
Of the rest, the Blue Air uses weird custom filters which I think cost a little more (though I haven't had to replace them yet). The Coway Mighty is also pretty small and mostly for a tiny room.
Relatedly, if you're interested in sensors I think the TemTop sensors are the best (I've tried a bunch of different ones, and a lot of them suck).
Some details on this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirQuality/comments/ikf1ed/are_ther...
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and served for almost 10 years before being passed on Wait what, is ten years supposed to be a good lifetime for vacuum cleaners?
I'd say with couple of times a week usage for a thing made out of plastic I could expect a lot more troubles than it had. It did require one dyson service which they kindly provide even for old devices and one this pipe thingy swap since it ripped. But as other commenter pointed out - it still works we just wanted to move on to something smaller and cordless and we expect the first thing that will fail in V11 is goin…
Any cordless appliance with non-replaceable batteries is going to be designed to last only as long as the batteries. Typically 5 years or so.
At least cordless tools usually use replaceable (but absurdly expensive) battery packs. Home goods however seem far slower to adopt battery pack technology.
One thing I hate is that every single manufacturer has their own special battery tech that is expressly incompatible with every other manufacturer. This is an area that is absolutely crying out for standardization but probably won't get it because they're making too much money selling literally $7 of materials and labor for $80. I meant that too. 8 18650s for $0.50 each, plus a cheap off-the-shelf $1 charge controller and plastic case.