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GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Okay a serious question: at what point does it make sense for these hedge fund guys to just purchase reddit and shut it down? To be clear: I don't think that would work, but I think we're at the point where stuff like that is going to be tried. These guys are losing BILLIONS of dollars. Billions. Can they spend $1B to prevent the loss of $2B? (Is reddit worth more than $1B?) Other stuff I won't be surprised if we see…

It would be much cheaper just to pay some kids to make nice looking but ultimately loss making bets on there. If WSB looks like a place where people go to lose money then it's popularity will drop.

uhm, have you ever been to WSB? Loss Porn is a thing.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#422

> These points doubtless make me appear to be a complacent shill for the financial industry, talking down to the rubes. For the record, I’m still angry about the way workers were ripped off in Britain more than three decades ago, and about the way the little guy ended up bearing the brunt for the financial implosions of 2000 and 2008. But it looks horribly to me as though the same thing is going to happen again — and…

> The "little guy" refers to the Reddit traders that are making a killing right now, with the expectation that eventually the stock price will crash again. The reddit traders are only making a killing if they're selling these inflated positions. At some point somebody will be left holding the bag, odds are it will be a bunch of people from wallstreetbets and other retail investors that are late to the party. There's…

The daily volume is higher than the total number of shares for the company. Lots of people are locking in their gains. Of course someone else is taking their place at an even higher cost basis.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#423

> These points doubtless make me appear to be a complacent shill for the financial industry, talking down to the rubes. For the record, I’m still angry about the way workers were ripped off in Britain more than three decades ago, and about the way the little guy ended up bearing the brunt for the financial implosions of 2000 and 2008. But it looks horribly to me as though the same thing is going to happen again — and…

>As best I can figure, most of the /r/ guys are doing this as a form of trolling and aren't expecting to get rich off it or pour their live-savings into it. I saw a lot of those "pour their life-savings" into it postings. A lot of "yacht or food stamps" type sentiments being shared.

On the flip side, if you watch the comments go by in the megathread, quite a few people are just buying 1 stock (often times just a fraction of a stock).

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#424

> These points doubtless make me appear to be a complacent shill for the financial industry, talking down to the rubes. For the record, I’m still angry about the way workers were ripped off in Britain more than three decades ago, and about the way the little guy ended up bearing the brunt for the financial implosions of 2000 and 2008. But it looks horribly to me as though the same thing is going to happen again — and…

This Reddit Post is very revealing: https://twitter.com/inactivist_/status/1354537152445521923/p...

Being without a relationship has never made me want to go to Vegas and gamble my 401k on blackjack.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#425
post #33

It's really not. Because eventually retail is going to get destroyed. Yes, some hedge funds have lost their shirts, but those are the first ones who were in the short before the squeeze. The hedge funds and more importantly day trading shops making money right now are the ones who saw the activity and are goosing the stock price right now. I don't know if people realize that there are thousands of day trading shops w…

You underestimate just how much concentrated retail volume is. I have had more than ten people ask me how to buy GME. Its on the front page of everything. Bitcoin’s nearly $1T market cap is more or less all retail. Plenty of WSB posts with multi million positions. Disclosure: I long GME.

> I have had more than ten people ask me how to buy GME.

Correct, I know at least 5 people who bought GME this week. It's way bigger than WSB now.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't watch all the videos, but so far as I write this post, it does not appear that shorts have covered, or started covering (at least as of this morning). It seems like the price hike is due to big buyers and gamma squeezes. There's been systematic short attacks in an attempt to drive the stock down, but they keep getting neutralized by big buyers. It's been a wild ride.

Melvin Capital did.[0] [0] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/hedge-fund-targeted-by-reddi...

You sure about that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/l64xvw/gme_dedicate...

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#427

This is a great example of how the stock market is not about fundamentals, just like Bitcoin, it’s all about popularity and perception. In the end, people don’t care if the “stock is really worth” the price, they only care if themselves or someone else are willing to pay the price, nothing else really matters.

You´re right in the short term. But in the long term the hope is that things average out and true value emerges as a function of countless transactions over years and years. Markets are a value ascribing heuristic machine. There is nothing about them that can deterministically point to objective value. However, the idea is that over a longer period of time, an approximation of true value emerges though wisdom of the…

But what if retail investors start to make up a larger % of investors? Then the dominant philosophy is hype, popularity and trying to sell to a greater fool. This is already happening: retail investors are growing in number.

Originally, when institutions were the major players, stock prices followed fundamentals because most ppl cared about the revenue, earnings and cash flow. But what happens when the demographics change?

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#428

This is a great example of how the stock market is not about fundamentals, just like Bitcoin, it’s all about popularity and perception. In the end, people don’t care if the “stock is really worth” the price, they only care if themselves or someone else are willing to pay the price, nothing else really matters.

You´re right in the short term. But in the long term the hope is that things average out and true value emerges as a function of countless transactions over years and years. Markets are a value ascribing heuristic machine. There is nothing about them that can deterministically point to objective value. However, the idea is that over a longer period of time, an approximation of true value emerges though wisdom of the…

"In the short run, the market is a voting machine but in the long run, it is a weighing machine" attributed to Benjamin Graham

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#429

I'd like to know whether these retail investors see Gamestop as artwork or as speculation/investment. Artwork - they buy it not because of any intrinsic value or expectation of a dividend/capital gain, but because of reasons pertaining to subjective utility - childhood nostalgia, a desire to get symbolic revenge at hedge funds, entertainment value, or a desire to access gambling services in a country where online gam…

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

#430

> These points doubtless make me appear to be a complacent shill for the financial industry, talking down to the rubes. For the record, I’m still angry about the way workers were ripped off in Britain more than three decades ago, and about the way the little guy ended up bearing the brunt for the financial implosions of 2000 and 2008. But it looks horribly to me as though the same thing is going to happen again — and…

This Reddit Post is very revealing: https://twitter.com/inactivist_/status/1354537152445521923/p...

That's the lamest take I've seen yet. They identified a short squeeze opportunity and exploited it. No Freudian analysis needed.
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