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GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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This is a great example of how the stock market is not about fundamentals, just like Bitcoin, it’s all about popularity and perception. In the end, people don’t care if the “stock is really worth” the price, they only care if themselves or someone else are willing to pay the price, nothing else really matters.

You´re right in the short term. But in the long term the hope is that things average out and true value emerges as a function of countless transactions over years and years. Markets are a value ascribing heuristic machine. There is nothing about them that can deterministically point to objective value. However, the idea is that over a longer period of time, an approximation of true value emerges though wisdom of the crowd.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Can anyone tell me why SEC won't just step in, suspend trading, and force some kind of resolution? Its obvious that the market has been effectively broken by the short sellers. It might just make the redditors more angry and likely to hit other shorted stocks, and possibly cause markets to decline, but its the best applicable solution i see. https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-and-bulletins/ib_tr...

Short sellers illegally borrowed more stock that actually existed. They are the criminals here. Not the people discovering this and taking the criminals for everything they have.

Correct.

GME was heavily shorted at ~148% and the institutional shorts got too greedy and /r/wallstreetbets caught them as they failed to close their shorts.

Now they are forced to buy back the stock to cover their positions whist everyone is buying and holding GME as the stock price goes higher; rinse and repeat.

If anything, the hedge-funds over-shorting these stocks are the criminals which have manipulated them (GME) for years with other hedge-funds bailing them out and the media covering their asses for their illegal activities; as usual.

Then they cry and lie with the media: 'ThiS is mAnIpulAtIOn' to /r/wallstreetbets.

All I can say is: /r/wallstreetbets is literally robinhood.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One individual sitting at $31M currently on a $50k investment. What happens when one tries to cash out this kind of position? Does he or she actually walk away with $31M?

FWIW, he was sitting on $31M at close yesterday (~$141/share), Jan 26th. It's mid $300's now, Jan 27th, easily doubling his position from yesterday north of $60M. Edit: He just updating his daily position. Cashed out 13M, has 35M still riding in shares and options. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l6ekdz/gme_...

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't Front Running - by definition. Front Running is when you receive an order from a large client and you yourself trade in the same stock before them, and then sell the stock to them, or allow the spread to narrow and pocket the difference. High frequency trading is not front running unless it illegally takes data from the client trading desk - which would be both obvious and highly illegal.

There is a reason high frequency trading is typically referred to as legal front running. Sure, it's not front running by legal definition, but in practice it is absolutely front running. Beating trades to the market and making micro-gains on a mass scale.

> There is a reason high frequency trading is typically referred to as legal front running. Sure, it's not front running by legal definition, but in practice it is absolutely front running. Beating trades to the market and making micro-gains on a mass scale.

It's only referred that may by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

Front running isn't about "beating" anyone to anything. It's about stealing non-public information about an actor's intent to trade and using it to make trades before that information becomes public, and specifically before that trade executes. It's the theft bit which is the reason it's illegal.

What HFT firms are doing is simply rushing to execute as fast as possible on generally available information. They're not acting on information that's not legally available to everyone else, because that would be illegal misuse of that information. This sort of thing is pretty easy to detect, and the SEC comes down pretty hard on it.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Can anyone tell me why SEC won't just step in, suspend trading, and force some kind of resolution? Its obvious that the market has been effectively broken by the short sellers. It might just make the redditors more angry and likely to hit other shorted stocks, and possibly cause markets to decline, but its the best applicable solution i see. https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-and-bulletins/ib_tr...

Short sellers illegally borrowed more stock that actually existed. They are the criminals here. Not the people discovering this and taking the criminals for everything they have.

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Okay a serious question: at what point does it make sense for these hedge fund guys to just purchase reddit and shut it down? To be clear: I don't think that would work, but I think we're at the point where stuff like that is going to be tried. These guys are losing BILLIONS of dollars. Billions. Can they spend $1B to prevent the loss of $2B? (Is reddit worth more than $1B?) Other stuff I won't be surprised if we see…

> I don't think that would work, but I think we're at the point where stuff like that is going to be tried

Agreed it won't work. A lot of the discussion has already moved from Reddit to discord, and then to another discord channel after the first, and it will move again too if it needs to.

I don't have any skin in the game, but it's fascinating to observe.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Why doesn’t GME issue some shares at these prices and pay off all its debt and add cash to the balance sheet?

Because GME already has more cash than it’s debt. It’s always had a great balance sheet. Shorts were not very justifiable: it was hardly going to go bankrupt.

It doesn’t have to go to bankrupt, it just has to go down.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Am I missing something in the Gamestop news that isn't "hedge fund gambles billions on naked shorts and loses"? That seems like a real blunder on their part. In other contexts we would just call this gambling, I think. Shorts have infinite liability, not hedging them is not something I can get behind.

They have a large chunk of cash, they got new investors with Ryan Cohen coming onboard and are moving into an ecommerce direction + they are a familiar and established brand. The "resurrection" story here serves fuel on the brand fire. Real news is that gamestop really has turnaround potential.

Demand for physical media is declining and seems certain to be extinguished by the console manufacturers within the next few years. GameStop has no leverage to slow or change that.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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If you want an entertaining explanation of what's going on with GameStop's stock, I highly recommend these videos from Louis Rossmann: https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/wallstreetbets-vs-citron-re... https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/why-mainstream-media-s-slan... https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/gamestop-shorts-lose-billio... https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/gamestop-shorts-are-full-of... (That's how I learned about t…

This is gold, it's things like this situation and then such people explaining it that teaches me more about the market than any other dry material I have ever found before.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Am I missing something in the Gamestop news that isn't "hedge fund gambles billions on naked shorts and loses"? That seems like a real blunder on their part. In other contexts we would just call this gambling, I think. Shorts have infinite liability, not hedging them is not something I can get behind.

The problem I have isn't that a hedge fund screwed up. It isn't even with WSB.

The problem I have is that this seems to be another red flag that we are in the late stages of a bull market. The point where, at least according to folk wisdom, the least sophisticated investors enthusiastically enter the market.

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