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A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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"Does Coinbase just stand for making a profit?

No, we stand for accomplishing the mission and for creating a great place to work."

My god, you're a business, you're entire existence is predicated on making a profit, don't delude yourself into thinking you're chasing some higher purpose, if that was truly the case then you'd be offering your services at a loss or giving away your product for free.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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> "Apolitical" is ... another way of saying, "The way things are is fine". I disagree strongly & think you're dead wrong here. Apolitical in the workplace is saying "we come to work to align on & collaborate in working towards shared goals and those goals are what we should be focused on at work. People who share this goal (coinbase, make money, promote crypto whatever) may vote R, D, or not vote at all. We can all s…

The work you do together is political. It of course isn’t necessarily directly engaged with USA national politics, but it’s directly engaged in politics. Politics is a very broad and encompassing concept. It isn’t synonymous with some nation’s representative political system.

Right, so we can say "we both think that better backup software primarily targeting the enterprise and government market is good for society" (and as you say that is a statement with political ramifications) and still disagree on just about everything else. For instance we don't have to agree on whether or not abortion should be legal, the president should be impeached, taxes should be raised on rich people, or how gun control should be implemented (if at all).

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

#423
My observation is that people outside the US either are confused or laugh at Americans for giving in to all this social justice nonsense, the “let’s be racist to white people” the “biological sex does not exist” etc.

And people inside the US who trust me enough to express their honest opinion also think it’s nonsense but are too scared to speak up.

Best comment I’ve heard on this was “it’s like the USSR - everyone knows it is bullshit but nobody wants to publicly say it.”

Or, from a senior person at Google “all the work on my team is done by 3 white guys in Eastern Europe, but there are 20 other people for the diversity pie chart.”

It would be laughable if it weren’t so toxic.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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post #214

I wanted to find an example for my response to this article, and I can't. I was looking for the sites like GitHub, Go Docs, Cloudflare, Hashicorp, and others what splashed a "#BlackLivesMatter" header on across all their sites. I remember a lot of places slapping banners or changing their headers black in support of the movement, and now I can't find any examples of that happening. They all seem to have been removed…

For what it’s worth, the Kubernetes project still has their banner up on every page of the site, front and center. They are serious about it even if the rest of the CNCF and Google aren’t.

https://kubernetes.io/

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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And so the sorting into apolitical and leftist companies can begin! It's probably for the best.

Isn't it interesting that the crowd fighting for liberation & equity are mysteriously up against... the apolitical crowd? When the dichotomy is ethical realism vs. pragmatism, you have to ask yourself who's actually operating like a religion, who's actually a dogmatist in liberator's clothing.

Most people don't worry about all aspects of the world's problems, and many people find themselves convinced that the status quo is more comfortable than the alternative. It's not at all surprising to me that a lot of political issues would have a "thought about it, realized the problems, and trying to fix it" position and a "apolitical, don't like thinking about it, don't want to consider changes to the status quo" position that end up butting heads. I don't see how you can go from that to "anyone arguing with 'apolitical' people is following a religion". (Obviously there are bad variants of this scenario like where someone misidentifies a problem or misidentifies the fix, but that doesn't seem necessarily like religious thinking either.)

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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post #373

I am beyond sick of political activists in the workplace, so I hope this trend catches on.

It’s a bummer that Coinbase’s ploy to intentionally conflate not supporting the Black Lives Matter movement (that is, a clear implicit endorsement of the status quo) with generalized left/right-political-activism-at-work seems to have worked, at least for a lot of people who aren’t paying attention. This isn’t about office politics, or political activism at work. This is about Coinbase making an explicit vote for the…

The reality is thar vast majority of those who do not support the BLM movement are not at all racist. I believe that this movement has made our society more racist and divided than it was before.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

#427

For reference, the severance package was 4 months of salary for employees with =3 years of tenure at Coinbase. The severance also included 6 months of health insurance. (Source: https://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-severance-apolitical-missi... ) What percentage of employees at Coinbase are actively interviewing for other jobs at any given time? 5%? If someone has one foot out the door already, taking a bonus equivalent…

I think you underestimate how many people are fed up with overly politicized workplaces. I’ve quit a couple of jobs due to it. I’d definitely stay somewhere where I can just work without having to listen to unrelated BS constantly, even if it meant passing on a sweet severance package.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Gay marriage is a divisive topic in the USA. A gay man talking about his wedding around the water cooler is political. A straight man talking about his wedding around the water cooler is not political. The only non-political choice is not allowing either to occur. Because if you allow both, that is a political statement. If you only allow one, that is too. The funny thing about politics is: a company doesn't get to c…

> Gay marriage is a divisive topic in the USA. A gay man talking about his wedding around the water cooler is political. A straight man talking about his wedding around the water cooler is not political. Talking about one's wedding around the water cooler is not political, irrespective of the speaker's orientation OR the audience's opinions about gay marriage. Similarly, an argument in favoring or opposing gay marria…

While that's true now, it wasn't true 10 (or even 5 in some places) years ago. It's arguably not even true in some places today. Just this week, the Supreme Court denied cert on a lawsuit about same sex marriage (Kim Davis).

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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post #82

I feel like this is the start of a rising tide. I think Brian's stance is great, companies have missions, they should focus on those missions. Everything has become so political that your work, which occupies a large portion of your life, should not be divisive.

But he’s still being political when he bothers to look at numbers of non white employees or talks about “diversity in tue workplace”. All these are political agenda by another name.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

#430

My company is becoming increasingly political and it's terrible. I'd gladly go work at a company where I didn't have to engage with endless political activism. If I want to hear everyone's opinions on everything, I'd find their facebook page or the HN usernames and follow them.

> My company is becoming increasingly political and it's terrible. IMHO, this is not the problem. The problem are the managers of the work. One doesn't need to micromanage to stop this from happening. Nor does one need to limit free speech to prevent this. Companies aren't working enough, that's the problem and managers aren't keeping people focused on the actual challenge at hand. P.S. I feel this is a white-collar…

No, the problem is really about politicization and more specifically the fact that in most US tech companies there is an enormous bias towards those on the political left, and a believe that those who lean left are more “scientifically educated” or intelligent or well-read, etc.

As one example you can see it in the way you can make hostile comments about “straight white males” and nobody says anything, but if you were to make a hostile comment for a perceived racial or sexual minority you’d be fired before even finishing your sentence

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