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A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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I am beyond sick of political activists in the workplace, so I hope this trend catches on.

Me too. I can't see why staying in my comfort zone is regarded as political. One solution is to just get comfy. No politics involved, just plain survivalism, nothing wrong.

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> (Almost) everything is political. Only in a world where words have no meaning.

That's an uncharitably pedantic way of looking at it. I think the parent meant that (almost) every endeavor will have some element of politics in it. That doesn't mean the word "politics" has no meaning.

> I think the parent meant that (almost) every endeavor will have some element of politics in it

This is textbook pedantry. Obviously "don't discuss politics in the workplace" means "don't discuss divisive topics, especially when they're not particularly relevant to your work".

Of course everything is "technically political", but that's not how anyone uses "political" except when they're trying to argue in bad faith (specifically engaging in tautology).

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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From entering "define political" in Google: 1. relating to the government or public affairs of a country. Not the one the parent probably means: 2. (DEROGATORY) done or acting in the interests of status or power within an organization rather than as a matter of principle. Whatever a company does, it relates in some way to the public affairs of a country. Either in what you offer, or what you need to produce your offe…

It's safe to say that a company can impact the public affairs of a country by creating economic value without taking an official speculative stance on e.g. the racial distribution of unjust police killings. It's pretty obvious to me when people talk about "leaving political topics out of the workplace" they mean "topics which are unrelated to one's work". Arguments like "abortion is highly related to site reliability…

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Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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No, it is not. Politics apathy is present across all races, all classes, all genders. Those who are politically possessed like to claim that “everything is politics” and that “it’s a privilege to not care about politics”, but every Hispanic and Filipino immigrant I’ve known (which is not a negligible number) care about family, hard work, and stability: not politics.

How does one ensure "stability" without getting involved in politics?

Getting involved in politics makes your life more unstable, which is why mostly privileged people engage in it. For example extremely few people from below median homes are politically active in USA, while home owners are among the most active. Ergo people are mostly politically active to defend their privileges and not to fix injustices.

I'm not sure how anyone can think that being politically active would make your life more stable.

Edit: An example of this is that black people are much less likely to vote than white people. Is this because black people support the status quo while white people want to change things? No, it is because black people don't have the time and energy to spare to vote. And no, this isn't about voting disenfranchisement, black people are less likely to vote even in very blue states.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Staying in a job and supporting yourself and you family for a temporary time doing a normal job is not indifference. It is putting food on the table, perhaps literally.

I agree. I think you may have meant to address this to the comment that I was replying to.

I misunderstood you, but I probably read it wrong. Super tired today. Thank you for clarifying.

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Silence gives us the ability to work together, without silence you get to hear my hardcore religious ideas all day. Silence is our truce.

This is getting down-voted but honestly I agree. Silence is a professional courtesy when it comes to certain ideas. For instance, I don't talk about how I find certain parts of 4chan incredibly hilarious. As a black man, I'd definitely have co-workers blow up if I mentioned this at work - granted they feel more than entitled to talk about all sorts of things that I wouldn't even talk about if I was at a bar with frie…

I feel this. As someone who grew up in the 4chan hey-day, the internet I fell in love with was extremely inappropriate and anarchic. Shooting the shit about whatever inane thing 4chan was going on about were the source of hilarious and open conversations we used to have amongst friends. Don't get me wrong, 4chan is wrong, messed up, socially deviant and not something to look up to. But all the people I know who used to browse that crazy site ended up being normal, well adjusted people. The social climate is so tense nowadays I would never think to talk about good old 4chan openly.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Honest gut impression - they were probably dead weight anyway? Talking politics at work rather than, you know, getting work done. I've certainly worked with a number of the type.

I highly doubt they walked in the door, spent 8 hours talking politics and collected their paychecks every month.

Dude, you need to meet our old PM. It was politics, loudly with anyone who would listen, briefly interrupted by making our job harder.

I was actually sad she left on her own rather than getting fired. She actually moved to a bigger company.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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So, if the government bans crypto, does Coinbase remain apolitical? It's not a hypothetical. Satoshi created Bitcoin as a (particularly ineffective) act of insurrection, and the only reason why governments haven't responded to it like so is a matter of political and judicial economy. Existing money-laundering and securities laws likely already ban Bitcoin, we just haven't seen them fully enforced. Using Bitcoin is in…

The answer to this question is in the blogpost. The answer is no.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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That's an uncharitably pedantic way of looking at it. I think the parent meant that (almost) every endeavor will have some element of politics in it. That doesn't mean the word "politics" has no meaning.

> I think the parent meant that (almost) every endeavor will have some element of politics in it This is textbook pedantry. Obviously "don't discuss politics in the workplace" means "don't discuss divisive topics, especially when they're not particularly relevant to your work". Of course everything is "technically political", but that's not how anyone uses "political" except when they're trying to argue in bad faith…

Gay marriage is a divisive topic in the USA. A gay man talking about his wedding around the water cooler is political. A straight man talking about his wedding around the water cooler is not political. The only non-political choice is not allowing either to occur. Because if you allow both, that is a political statement. If you only allow one, that is too.

The funny thing about politics is: a company doesn't get to choose what topics are divisive. People do. All it takes is one person to strongly hold a belief in the office to make it political.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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My company is becoming increasingly political and it's terrible. I'd gladly go work at a company where I didn't have to engage with endless political activism. If I want to hear everyone's opinions on everything, I'd find their facebook page or the HN usernames and follow them.
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