Can we relax with the self-made, altruistic view of billionaires? Self-made is a myth, and an NBA owner just released a book titled "Shut Up and Listen." Money talks, and it seems pretty clear that all of the moves previously made were actually for profits, not social causes.
NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts
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>Can we relax with the self-made, altruistic view of billionaires? I'm not sure that user is pushing a particular agenda you describe. Nor does the name of a book prove much of anything.
It proves that you're too lazy to read, which is generally the winning point in an argument.
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>Lin is the first American of Chinese or Taiwanese descent to play in the NBA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Lin Jeremy Lin is of Chinese descent. I didn't say he was born there.
Your statement is still absurd. Would you consider an Irish American player to be “exported from” Ireland?
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#424This reminds me of a story a teacher of mine told in a Advertising class, about a retailer that put pressure on a soda maker to lower prices, or they wouldn't give them share of shelf. Well the soda maker didn't agree, so they pulled the inventory out. Weeks later the retailer came back to invite them in at the same rates. Apparently the customers weren't happy that their favorite soda wasn't available, and made sure…
I want to point it out it is not only Chinese government, but also Chinese people, the people were enjoying the NBA, are abandoning it. This actually hurts the feeling of the fans.
However, if the government chooses to grease the wheels of fury or even light the flame via astroturfing while simultaneously censoring dissenting opinions, they look mighty unified.
Remember, this tweet was on _Twitter_. Twitter is banned in China, which raises the question of how this became such a mainstream issue there organically. Sure, I suppose it’s possible that an expat reshared it on Weibo and the entire country went bananas but that seems a like a bit of a stretch to me.
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I want to point it out it is not only Chinese government, but also Chinese people, the people were enjoying the NBA, are abandoning it. This actually hurts the feeling of the fans.
One of the big problems I find with people supporting the Chinese position on something is that - are they really supporting it, or is this propaganda? Given the level of control on the media and internet there, it is impossible to know.
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#426The NBA really needs to grow a spine on this one. They have nothing to lose but incremental profits and in the long run China will lose. It will just be one more reminder for the populace that their current government restricts them from luxuries the rest of the world gets to experience. And if that doesn't bother them, good riddance I guess, it's not like China is going to come up with their own basketball league th…
I think focusing on the NBA and China misses the bigger issue that affects everyone. What if Daryl Morey had tweeted that he believed marriage was between a man and a woman? There's no doubt he would have been fired and deplatformed faster than greased lightning... Social media is making it hard for individuals to keep their personal thoughts separate from their work. Not sure what the answer is. Everybody chill?
You wouldn't see countries threatening to ban the entire NBA.
> There's no doubt he would have been fired and deplatformed faster than greased lightning...
Sign me up for a lot of doubt!
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> A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. Your presidential candidate need to fix human rights issues in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Democracy installed by the US government gotta have a warranty and customer service. If the outcome of US installed human rights means tens of thousands of refugees and jihad fighters how can your model of human rights…
You can't have it both ways, we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. How many revolutions and dictatorships did the French have to go through until they settled on a system that works for them?
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Their actions also go against deontological ethics as well.
Indeed, but not doing anything in both cases is still worse in that system, which is the point. You have to do wild contortions to make doing one fewer good thing better .
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I agree, however they have had quite a distinct change in tone recently since leaving China. Not that what they say is untrue, but it feels at least somewhat to have an "unfair" anti-China bias at this point, at least to me. The reality is though, no singular opinion is "correct", best to consume a wide variety of opinions with an open mind, and resist forming any strong conclusions about particulars. Usually, the co…
It seems reasonable to filter your views and appear more pro-China while living in China.
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Billionaire's shouldn't exist. Name literally one benefit of having a billionaire in our society. Any one thing we wouldn't otherwise have.
The benefit of billionaires existing is that they made extraordinarily valuable businesses. Take Steve Jobs or Bill Gates - if they didn’t exist then Apple and Microsoft wouldn’t either. If Notch didn’t exist then neither would Minecraft. If you create something (a company, a video game, other IP), and people value that thing at a billion dollars, then you’re a billionaire. Notch became a billionaire after selling Mi…
Let them have 50 or 100 million, then put the rest in the hands of the other people that worked to make it happen. If all of those people are now rich, then use the excess money to help the impoverished.
> Reaping what you sow provides the incentive to work hard in our society.
It's not binary. People don't get all the money or none of it. You can still have ridiculously large amounts of monetary incentive without it being possible to hit a billion dollars.