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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by ValentineC » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:23 PM UTC

pzo wrote: post #338

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

> I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro.

I daresay the iPhone 17 Pro is a compelling enough upgrade, hardware wise. Not much innovation, but their phone hardware is very usable.

But I'd prefer if Apple gave up 2 years of trying to "innovate" nonsense like Liquid glAss and polish up their software first, just like the old days.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by tamimio » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:23 PM UTC

I have to admit, regardless of whatever opinions you may have on Apple, Tim is/was probably the best bug tech CEO in the sea of evil ones out there, or evil and grifters, he remained focused on what’s the best might be for the users and also the company.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by makeitdouble » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:24 PM UTC

ericzawo wrote: post #343

necovek wrote: post #29

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I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not.

They are leaps and bounds above any other laptop on the market. Who wants a plastic chasis and nub in 2026 over a modern Macbook Air.

They are leaps and bounds ahead for people who want their specific formula or don't really care about computers.

Apple has always been a "our way or the highway" brand, we can at least keep in mind that 3 laptop formulas only differenciated by size and thickness won't cut it for everyone on the planet.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by JKCalhoun » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:24 PM UTC

krackers wrote: post #227

btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

There's some irony there in that the whole maps fiasco lead to firing of Forstall which allowed Ive to become head of design, which basically led to the current state of macOS design. I do wish that some day someone will tell the story of what happened during that time. Maps was bad at launch yes, but it also wouldn't get better without people contributing more data, and the fact that it took a decade to slowly impro…

Forstall fired an engineer I had worked with (and who I respected a lot) to take the fall for Apple Maps.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by bromuro » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:25 PM UTC

Arainach wrote: post #268

hei-lima wrote: post #77

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Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

What metrics or experiences lead you to that conclusion? I've used basically all of the major operating systems for 30+ years and I cannot stand macOS. I use a Mac as one of my work devices, and off the top of my head: * Basic things such as window management require third party tools to get things that are table stakes everywhere else. Even with third party tools doing anything with a "full screen" mode is not going…

- Let’s hope they don’t change the way macOS manage windows. All the additions they made to accommodate Windows users are useless. - I don’t have any issue on searching macos settings. Could you provide an example? - safari is a great browser, i use it as main browser since years and i’d never go back I think you could keep going saying things that are not true.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by qubob » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:26 PM UTC

alsetmusic wrote: post #169

I think it's interesting that the handoff will be complete on Sept 1. That would mean Ternus will helm his first iPhone launch that month. Auspicious timing. Curious the math they calculated when landing on this date. Certainly tees him up for an early win if the products are well-received.

Tim's departure announcement is timed between product announcements. Although, not a surprise to anyone

As for Ternus' timing:

A)Not very Apple to have the CEO do one last launch while on the way out the door (want the full throated, 1000% commitment in execs)

B)Gives John stage for first time as CEO at September Keynote (historically a BFD)

C)It felt right, among all the other time-slots and factors to consider

D)John gets to announce the next One More Thing, and own it. Would be odd for Tim to announce the One More Thing and then resign.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by lotsofpulp » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:27 PM UTC

BitwiseFool wrote: post #393

lotsofpulp wrote: post #171

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I hope they sell a higher priced monthly Apple One bundle which allows people to pay extra to not see ads in Apple Maps. Can even make it multiple tiers for no ads in Apple TV and Apple Maps, or maybe privacy plus tiers so they can earn more money by not selling search history.

Personally, I hope the lack of advertisements in Apple Maps comes bundled with the fact that I purchased an iPhone. A lack of ads is a selling point.

My comment was tongue in cheek. They are already here:

https://ads.apple.com/maps

Which means the only other option is to hopefully be able to pay Apple even more to not have to see ads. Maybe buy more Apple shares to share in this "advancement".

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by elicash » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:27 PM UTC

IncreasePosts wrote: post #357

tchalla wrote: post #39

> Under Cook’s leadership Apple has grown from a market capitalization of approximately $350 billion to $4 trillion, representing a more than 1,000% increase, and yearly revenue has nearly quadrupled, from $108 billion in fiscal year 2011 to more than $416 billion in fiscal year 2025. Quite successful.

For the same period: AMZN: +2100% META: +1700% MSFT: +1300% GOOG: +1400%

Was meta a public company back then? Amazon, I think, was quite small, too.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by uncivilized » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:28 PM UTC

ubercore wrote: post #195

thenanyu wrote: post #160

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Siri was under jobs. He saw AI before everyone else

I know it is actually AI, but calling Siri AI vs the current state of the art is... generous.

Calling the current state of art AI is also generous.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by greatgib » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 11:29 PM UTC

Sad to see Tim Cook leaving as I was enjoying this downtrend of Apple products that is driving users to more open (and better) solutions like Linux PCs. I cross fingers for John Ternus to still be greedy and not being too competent.