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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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How many people look at those? Versus how many people across the world are finding out about the new pope? The point is how many people are actually receiving this information. Not "could look up on their phone if they wanted".

I used to be a CNBC junkie. Before there was crypto I used to enjoy adopting a penny stock and watching the ticker for it very closely; you can learn a lot about market dynamics when you are trading a stock where you buy $2000 of stock and that is 30% of the volume for the day. (Try $KBLB for a stock where if you think the price is too high or too low you will find that both opinions are vindicated if you wait long e…

That's great. Not sure what it has to do with the conversation though?

Nobody is claiming nobody follows stocks.

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The white smoke means there's a pope thing started in 1914[1], but they've been burning the ballots for a very long time. [1] https://www.history.com/articles/pope-conclave-smoke-color

Annoyingly, when I go to that page, even from Google where I found that URL too, I end up at the German homepage www.history.de (no path, the main page). I cannot go to history.com no matter what. I hate "intelligent" websites as much as I like touchpad microwaves, and that means not at all. Why would anyone assume an enforced(!!!) connection between my geographic location and the language-version of the website?

I even get to "history.nl/nl" even though I'm a French speaker in Belgium. On a French connection it redirects to "aenetworks.tv".

I don't think there is any way to access that page from outside the US.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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How many people look at those? Versus how many people across the world are finding out about the new pope? The point is how many people are actually receiving this information. Not "could look up on their phone if they wanted".

I used to be a CNBC junkie. Before there was crypto I used to enjoy adopting a penny stock and watching the ticker for it very closely; you can learn a lot about market dynamics when you are trading a stock where you buy $2000 of stock and that is 30% of the volume for the day. (Try $KBLB for a stock where if you think the price is too high or too low you will find that both opinions are vindicated if you wait long e…

And that's a million people doing that versus a billion people hearing about the pope.

(very very rough numbers of course)

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Prior to Francis, the last pope we had from a religious order (as opposed to a career diocesan) was Gregory XVI in 1831. Now we've had two religious popes in a row --- Francis, a Jesuit, and then Leo, an Augustinian.

Can you explain this like I'm 5?

It’s part of the hierarchy of the church.

Diocesan priests “work” for the bishop in a particular geographical area and are in the “corporate” hierarchy of the church.

Religious orders are sort of independent from the the church hierarchy and report through to the leader of their order, at a global level. They often focus on specific things and may have different vows. Franciscans are known for their work with the poor and personal vows of poverty, for example. Also the order is a community that has its own governance.

I have friends who are in a similar organization as nuns. They govern themselves democratically and globally. It’s pretty amazing - we helped them setup their real-time voting system to manage their community. Each group is different.

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I think it was Aristotle who said "Give me a child until his mid-twenties, and I will give you a complete American."

even as a joke of Aristotle living 2,000 years before the United States existed, I don't get the comedic affect

It's a play on the popular quote "Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man", attributed to Aristotle

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For what it's worth, Peru is in South America. Still American, Technically.

From reading online comments, I'm starting to believe that those who reside outside the US are more strident defenders of the idea that "US citizens only" = "American" than US citizens themselves.

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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It's only a matter of time before that same person gets called out by the new pope and responds by calling him a loser. If we're lucky, that will be the catalyst that finally erodes any remaining support he has.

Don't hold your breath. My whole family are staunch Catholics and disliked Francis because of his more "liberal" leanings. Some Catholics believed he was the "anti-christ" and loved Trump. Seriously.

I'm pretty sure you cease to be a Catholic when you call the Pope the anti-Christ. Infallible, God's representative on Earth, etc.

Though in USAmerica, we're pretty flexible on the meaning of "Christian" anyway. Certainly the loudest proclaimers have no resemblance whatsoever to the expected meaning.

Those troublesome CINOs.. Gosh Darn them to Heck.

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In his time around the end of the 19th century, Leo XIII was known as the “Social Pope” and “Pope of the Workers”. He wasn’t a radical but opened the door to modern thinking in the church. Presumably there’s some symbolism to why the new pope wanted to adopt this particular name.

Pope Leo 13 wrote this encyclical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum

My guess is new Pope Leo 14 will try to thread the needle on rising global interest in experimenting with socialism and the possible ramifications of AI automation.

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