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Re: This is a teenager

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Post by concordDance »

thfuran wrote: post #330
fregonics wrote: post #259

The presentation argues that the adverse experiences cited are outside the individual's control, some of them are and they can have negative effects, i agree, like gun violence or uninterested parents, but others are questionable, like suspensions or being held back in school, which is (in most part) derived directly from the individual's actions. Since the margins in some of the statistics are so small i wonder how…

>derived directly from the individual's actions. Are you saying that a person's actions aren't influenced by their environment?

Assuming a materialistic (non-spiritual) world this statement seems a bit vacuous as we are all the direct products of our environment (including womb environment, genes, nutrition, culture, etc).

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by ToValueFunfetti »

danans wrote: post #381
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The IQs of adopted children have next to nothing to do with their environments, and much more to do with the IQs of their birth parents. IQ in general is very strongly heritable. There are several adoption and twin studies that have demonstrated this effect, e.g.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8513766/

Trauma (physical and emotional) causing reduction in IQ is totally compatible with IQ being in part heritable. Regarding race/ethnicity correlations from the paper you posted: "(McGue et al., 2007; Miller et al., 2012). McGue et al. (2007) reported minimal ethnicity effects in the SIBS sample at intake, which we largely replicate in the current follow-up assessment. While rearing family socioeconomic status and polyg…

It's also compatible with low IQ causing poverty and bad parenting.

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Post by parpfish »

anon291 wrote: post #326
richardlblair wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My context is Canada where getting killed at work wouldn't been an issue. In the context I'm speaking about it would likely drive opportunity in low income neighborhoods. Canada also have horrific city planning, so when I say people need to travel far I mean they need to spend up to 3 hours in some major (major for us) cities just to get groceries. The US is a whole other can of worms, I don't know how to solve those…

> Canada also have horrific city planning, so when I say people need to travel far I mean they need to spend up to 3 hours in some major (major for us) cities just to get groceries. I can't imagine anyone in a major US city spending 3 hours. Maybe rurally, but even the so-called 'food deserts' in a big city like LA ... it's just a few miles. At the end of the day, look... my mother taught in inner-city public schools…

3 hours seems plausible if you need to take a bus trip with a transfer.

1:15 each way on the bus and 30min in the store

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Post by KTibow »

anon291 wrote: post #386
magicalist wrote: post #332

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> Unfortunately a solid number of these things would rely on the moral equivalent of slavery. Weird conclusion to jump to. GP did not suggest grocery stores staffed under threat of jail time anywhere. Better public transit benefits everyone. Better urban design favoring walkable neighborhoods benefits everyone. Better zoning allowing neighborhood shops at street level benefits everyone.

> Better public transit benefits everyone. Better urban design favoring walkable neighborhoods benefits everyone. Better zoning allowing neighborhood shops at street level benefits everyone. Sure, as someone who is raising a family in a city, I completely agree. But the reason why stores leave is invariably safety issues.

The point isn't necessarily that stores need to spring up nearby, the point is that it needs to be easier to access stores (eg by making it easier to get transportation).

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Post by Kamq »

smegger001 wrote: post #401
ransom1538 wrote: post #329

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Canada is about to become a 2nd world country. No industry, no ability to own a home, no healthcare [1], only one party, banking restrictions, etc etc,. 1. Healthcare is where you can see a doctor.

Thats not what a second world country is. Second world was used to describe Soviet Communist block countries as opposed to Western Industrialized Capitalist Democracies. Third World was everyone else, what we would now refer to as the global south (because apparently economist much like Eurovision organizers are a bit fuzzy on geography and seem to believe Australia and New Zealand to be somewhere in the atlantic)

I think they intentionally meant second world. They mention "one party" (presumably one political party), which was generally a feature of the second world instead of third. Additionally, the third world generally allows you to own your house, which is another one of their examples.

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Post by James_K »

maxerickson wrote: post #408
James_K wrote: post #349

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> Our current economic system has consistently lifted large numbers of people out of poverty historically, and is still doing it today. I think you mean China's economic system, which was in turn based on the practices of the USSR. China's economic system is lifting millions out of poverty, but western systems are systematically dragging people into it. Poverty in the US has never been lower than it was in 1973. Sinc…

What measures of poverty are you using for each country? Are they roughly equivalent, so that you are comparing similar things?

Pick a metric, it really doesn't matter. The claim that western economic systems are presently lifting people out of poverty is absurd, and my point is that China is responsible for the decreases in global poverty that have taken place over the last decades. Both of these facts are relatively uncontested.

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Post by jaysinn_420 »

tomp wrote: post #404
no-dr-onboard wrote: post #355

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> Teach conflict resolution skills to young children. This is pretty huge. A lot of my experience growing up in California during the 90s was "tell an adult" and "zero tolerance" coming down from school administrators. This is useful at a very young age, but it neglects to equip the children with agency for when the adults aren't around. You can't tell an adult when you're on the school bus and conflict breaks out. Y…

What do you mean? In the adult world, you'd just call the police. In the child world, sometimes you tell the adults, but they don't do anything, and the abuse continues. That's at least my experience with bullying in primary school. "Conflict resolution" and such virtue-signalling buzzwords don't work against violent bullies .

Call the police? I don't need two problems.

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Post by zer00eyz »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #289
zer00eyz wrote: post #39

>>> He'll be bullied at school. He'll be held back a few grades. He won't go to college. I dont even know where to start with this. 1. The whole anti bullying campaign that we now have two and a half decades of in schools has backfired spectacularly. This feels like "well DARE didn't work, we need to put this money somewhere else". We tell kids dont bully people, but if you defend yourself in a fight everyone gets su…

> but we under fund public schools Isn't the US in the top of funding per student? I think if anything we over fund public schools.

By what metric?

Teacher Pay?

Class room size?

Hours of education?

We may WASTE more money on students than other countries but in these metrics were behind and our below average everything makes that apparent.

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Post by themanmaran »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #95
RobCat27 wrote: post #14

I like the message, but I feel like this is bad data visualization. The width of each group of people is not the same, so it's somewhat meaningless to visually compare groups without being able to see the raw percentages. For example, the "Many Adverse Experiences" group is stretched to be longer than the other groups so that proportionally fewer people in that group appear to be a larger proportion than the same pro…

I'm torn. On the one hand, I agree with your remarks. On the other hand, I strongly appreciate the attention to detail in: - Actually keeping individual datapoints all the time, clickable and with full details, and just moving them around to form different charts; - Making the icons consistent with data - based on a few random instances I checked, the person's body shape and hairstyle correlated to biometric paramete…

I think it's an easy fix to include both!

At the top of each section header (No adverse, Some adverse, ect.) they could include a section count + percentage of each category they're showing.

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