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Right? $1/workday and you still get to use it evenings and weekends. No wonder b2b is the way.
I mean, I can pay 0$ and still use it. It's free.
For now
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This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…
The issue is once you buy a monitor for your work, they're then getting to rent it for free. If you need something to do your job better than they need to pay for it. You hurt yourself (financially) and you are contributing to a workplace culture where employees buy what they need. It's not just a monitor you're paying for! To be clear, I am not judging you. You did what was good for you and took the path of least re…
Depends. With stuff like mice and keyboards it's really not worth bothering anyone, in my opinion. Those are personal preferences.
About monitors and larger stuff, you may argue. Employers can find and buy good ones in bulk, instead of making everyone individually spend hours being annoyed, searching and comparing and buying better equipment. Either way, for monitors the financial hit will be way less than 1% of a typical salary (okay, may depend on location, but a monitor lasts 5+ years).
I agree it has to stop somewhere. For me that would be stuff like Unity3D subscriptions, or tables, or FPGA tools and oscilloscopes. But monitors... shrug
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#413Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.
I have the same question >and challenge incorrect assumptions. How can it challenge incorrect assumption, while the AI itself is biased and has restricted scope of vision?
Every human is biased and has restricted scope of vision. Yet we frequently claim to challenge incorrect assumptions. Are we wrong?
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Never gonna come from 'OpenAI'. ChatGPT is deliberately handicapped in order to milk money from corporate America. An unrestricted LLM trained on all data of humanity (including all the pirated books/research papers) would be one crazy beast. Hopefully some rich anarchist/maverick actually builds something like it. That untamed model would unveil the true extent of what AI can really do. Till then we will have to wai…
I'm right there with you. Give it about 5-10 years though, and the compute required for that endeavor will likely be in the $1000-10,000 range. That crazy beast might be selfhosted pretty soon.
Why wait? Any random 50-100 HN users could have the money to put together, the main job is organizing and then identifying/delegating tasks and deciding the niche.
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It’s going to have to be a “labor of love”. Once the model is out there it will be shared and available, but this only works if there’s no company to litigate against and no chance of making money off the thing (other than possibly going the crypto route).
why can't crowdfunding work for this stuff? I'd gladly chip in like, $1K or something, to fund the training of a ChatGPT-like LLM, on the condition that it's publicly released with no fetters.
We are currently at "mainframe" level of AI. It takes a room sized computer and millions of dollars to train a SOTA LLM.
Current models are extremely inefficient, insofar as they require vast internet-sized data, yet clearly we have not gotten fully human-quality reasoning out. I don't know about you, but I didn't read the entire Common Crawl in school when I was learning English.
The fundamental bottleneck right now is efficiency. ChatGPT is nice as an existence proof, but we are reaching a limit to how big these things can get. Model size is going to peak and then go down (this may already have happened).
So while we could crowdfund a ChatGPT at great expense right now, it's probably better to wait a few years for the technology to mature further.
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#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…
The issue is once you buy a monitor for your work, they're then getting to rent it for free. If you need something to do your job better than they need to pay for it. You hurt yourself (financially) and you are contributing to a workplace culture where employees buy what they need. It's not just a monitor you're paying for! To be clear, I am not judging you. You did what was good for you and took the path of least re…
> you are contributing to a workplace culture where employees buy what they need
This is nevertheless a great point. This culture is coming if it isn't here already especially when you add WFH to the mix
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$20 puts it way out of my price range. It's useful, but when I've been averaging around twenty queries a day and somewhat frequently get back hallucinated responses, it's not worth that price. I wish there was a pay-as-you-go or a lower tier offering.
Where do you live that you can't afford 20 a month? Even developers in India and the Phillipines can afford it and are using it
Personally, Canada.
I could afford it, but I don't know if it will be worth the value it brings. My salary isn't U.S.-level high, and I almost never get responses that are incredibly insightful. I do an average of 1 or 2 queries a day maybe.
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So you are doing something like 400 queries a month and the aggregate value of all those responses is less than $20 to you? I've got to ask, why bother querying it at all?
Thats stupid, I use search engines much much more than 400 times a month and they are free.
> and they are free
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I'm right there with you. Give it about 5-10 years though, and the compute required for that endeavor will likely be in the $1000-10,000 range. That crazy beast might be selfhosted pretty soon.
I want it in a gleaming metal box, self-contained on whatever is the 2033 version of a raspberry pi. I want it equipped with speech-to-text and text-to-speech. The box is featureless except for three rotary dials for "sass", "verbosity" and "sarcasm". It can be a family heirloom, lovingly ridiculed as grandpa's toy AI, to be taken out of an attic on christmases in 2050.
You're pretty close.
Eventually grandpa will be in the box. Our life's biodata will stream into the cloud as it happens through ancillary means (phones, watches, biometric sensors in retail stores), and the moment we die, our animatronic proxy will be ordered and arrive after an appropriate grieving period. You don't really have to live forever if your robot understudy can continue your legacy.
Imagine the recurring money flow in the industry of immortality by proxy. You don't want your late mum rolling around in last year's bucket of circuits do you? Of course not. Why don't we get your pre-order payments started on your own model so you can lock in a low rate?