“Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

Post by afiori » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 2:25 PM UTC

afiori wrote: post #382

phphphphp wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That analogy doesn’t really fit with the model of Twitter. If we are using the town/time square example, what Elon is describing is the digital version of putting a noise-cancelling box around the people saying “bad” things so that nobody can hear them. A message spreads on Twitter because individuals on Twitter amplify it (with engagement, retweets etc.) which is itself a form of speech: if you say something bad, an…

Twitter is half a content delivery app (getting tweet from you follows) and half a content suggestion app (tweets TW thinks you might like) In a charitable reading it looks like Elon wants to remove hateful speech from the latter and leave it off the former. This will allow you to say what you want and to follow who you want. Who ends up in your suggestions has nothing to do with free speech.

LATE EDIT: I thought of another analogy. Imagine that the national postal service of your country add a "papers you might like" service; people in this hypothetical can go to the post office submit their proposals and then the post office sends it around to whoever it thinks might like your mail.

If the postal services decides to ban you from this "papers you might like" service you are still allowed to send as much mail as you want to whoever you want, but you no longer have access to the postal service expertise in spreading your news.

This can obviously be abused but it is also very different from being unable to send any mail at all.

Post by btbuildem » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 8:58 PM UTC

elgenioso wrote: post #34

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #22

I'm certainly not a fan of how Musk has handled the Twitter takeover, but this sentiment, "New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach", seems highly reasonable to me, no? That is, what I find so awful about most social media (and places like YouTube) is how they focus on some of the most anger-inducing content for "engagement". That is, I think the problem is much more their algorithms than wha…

This is not a solvable problem. There is no algorithmic way to detect speech that needs to be boosted and deboosted on social media because there is no way to actually algorithmically detect what is truthful and what is just manipulative propaganda and marketing.

One way to approach that problem could be to eliminate any attempts to boost / temper anyone's tweets altogether.

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