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Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by mavelikara » Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 11:47 PM UTC

lloydatkinson wrote: post #153

29athrowaway wrote: post #110

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English is an official language over there, but it is spoken differently.

Different indeed. Every sentence sounds like a question with a small delay before the last word of the sentence. I have no idea why this is, but you can see it in literally any Indian engineering lecture recording on YouTube. It definitely does not inspire confidence they know the topic they are teaching.

> It definitely does not inspire confidence they know the topic they are teaching.

Only to people who judge competence based on diction.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by aaomidi » Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 5:24 PM UTC

chrischattin wrote: post #401

unethical_ban wrote: post #384

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It blows my mind we can enslave, murder, ostracize an entire people and culture for hundreds of years and think "alright we're good" will fix it all. It isn't a simple problem, there is no one simple solution, but saying "never provide any extra help in education nor acknowledge systemic issues in criminal justice and housing" is pretty shallow. Of course, being an actual social democracy would get us really far, but…

That is twisted logic to justify racist behavior.

I agree it’s twisted to think we can solve racism without addressing our history.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by Handytinge » Sun, Oct 23, 2022, 1:45 AM UTC

alistairSH wrote: post #89

aliqot wrote: post #4

How does this differ from companies and elected officials openly saying right now that females and minorities are preferred for X position, like vice president of USA or CEO of Reddit?

You’re assuming there is only one qualified person for a given position. And that the woman/minority is not that person. In most cases there are multiple qualified people.

Agreed. And if you make that decision between multiple qualified people based on sex or race, that's a problem.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by Handytinge » Sun, Oct 23, 2022, 1:49 AM UTC

sumeno wrote: post #344

jwond wrote: post #311

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Treating people differently on the basis of race or sex is discrimination. Equity is explicitly about trying to force equality of outcome between different groups by discriminating against groups that have been deemed privileged and in favor of groups that have been deemed oppressed.

If I help an elderly person across the street am I discriminating against the young? Are VA hospitals discriminating against non-veterans? If my neighbor's house is on fire is the fire department discriminating against me when they don't spray my house with water? We make accomodations for people in society all the time, it doesn't mean we are discriminating against people who aren't part of that group. Hiring practi…

There is a big difference (I think you know this) between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.

Regardless of who benefits more currently (and may benefit in the future), creating new victims of discrimination is not a good solution, unless the problem is "how do we add more discrimination to the world?".

Equating the fact that some groups have benefits over others does little to help the individuals being discriminated against.