People complain about firefox doing shady stuff and then use Brave lmao. Just leaving these here: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/19125#issuecom... https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/16611#issuecom...
I'm posting anonymously for obvious reasons. I've been working at Mozilla since its inception. And eventually left the company 2 years ago. And I'm so mad. Mozilla is not the Mozilla that was created almost 20 years ago. It's not the same people there. After the Firefox 4 nightmare, they started hiring product managers from big corp. We started seeing some ex-twitter, ex-microsoft, ex-amazon joining the company. Peop…
> Maybe he didn't have the same values employees had about LGBT, but fuck this This tactic will only work if Mozilla doesn't want to bring queer people along with them — an open web for _most_ people, but some people aren't welcome to join in. Making tools and services for public use is always political, and by tacitly endorsing discrimination against queer people, Mozilla would have been taking a stance that would h…
> This tactic will only work if Mozilla doesn't want to bring queer people along with them — an open web for _most_ people, but some people aren't welcome to join in.
What about people who hold opinions you disagree with?
> affirm that Mozilla's position is on the side of diversity and inclusivity
Firefox was successful when it was the alternative, better, option to the dominant Internet Explorer. Now the dominant browser is Chrom(e|ium). The two scenarios are very different.
Precisely. Firefox is never going to defeat Chrome in the "being Chrome" category. If it wants to exist as more than a tool for Google to avoid antitrust lawsuits, it can't keep playing that game. It has to differentiate. Privacy is not differentiation because it's invisible and HN commentators are 90% of the people who care about it. I want the sense of power back. I want the feeling that Firefox gave me a decade ag…
> Privacy is not differentiation because it's invisible
Privacy could be a differentiation if Mozilla did not show again and again that they don't actually care about your privacy. It might not be enough, but currently they don't even have that.
> Nowadays using Firefox feels more like holding a political demonstration in an empty room than using the finely-tuned instrument I once had. I can't think of better words to describe my feeling as a Firefox holdout. It's still my default browser, and the one I use for 97% of my work. Mozilla is breaking my heart with their floundering. Like a fantasy author who keeps getting mired in side quests and can never get b…
With a strategy like that how would they justify millions a year in C-level salaries?
It can't be worse for growth than their current strategy of burning the house down, which for some reason does not prevent them from justifying millions a year in C-level salaries.
I just disabled all of that. No Chromium browser is my main browser but when I need one, Brave seems like the best option. If you were to pick between Brave, Vivaldi and I dunno, maybe Edge, just for when you need Chrome-compatibility and pretty much no other reason, which one would you pick and why?
Firefox has fixed a lot of issues in their Quantum release. It removed a lot of what you called bloat as well. In tests it uses a lot less memory on average compared to Chrome. The privacy settings have been extended even further in recent years. Chrome’s settings come not even close to it. The extension system is still more flexible than Chrome’s. It has some built-in features such as autoplay stop and audio control…
Sure, you go ahead and believe that. Every release of Firefox I've tried, including the recent ones, have sucked and been full of spam. I'm angry at them because how the hell did we get here from the beauty of early Firefox and Phoenix? They've become the monster they were trying to fight. You don't agree with my assertions, that's fine. Its marketshare speaks for itself. People don't trust Mozilla anymore, with good…
It's not about trust. It's about convenience. Chrome comes with Android, so it's more convenient to use. Most people already use Google as search engine, and Google spams you to get Chrome, so it's more convenient to just use Chrome since you're also using Google, somehow using both products from the same house should be better, right?
I changed my default browser few days ago back to Safari. In Firefox, I would usually click the first two items on the home page which would be photopea or reddit. That day, they put 2 sponsored items for Amazon and Trivago instead at the first 2 spots and I accidentally clicked the amazon one without realizing because that first item was supposed to be Photopea. That was enough to piss me off: https://i.imgur.com/s7…
The threat model is reasonable behavior + a single warrant or data leak. It may not be the most likely way of compromise, but it's very possible, and such small insecurities add up. Mozilla should be making such compromise less likely, not more .
How do they add up? Having your IP address 10 times won’t make anyone ever of your medical history. It is not cumulative.
They add up in the sense that each increases the likelihood you will be compromised, and reduces the set of activities that you may safely and privately perform.
Sure, you go ahead and believe that. Every release of Firefox I've tried, including the recent ones, have sucked and been full of spam. I'm angry at them because how the hell did we get here from the beauty of early Firefox and Phoenix? They've become the monster they were trying to fight. You don't agree with my assertions, that's fine. Its marketshare speaks for itself. People don't trust Mozilla anymore, with good…
It's not about trust. It's about convenience. Chrome comes with Android, so it's more convenient to use. Most people already use Google as search engine, and Google spams you to get Chrome, so it's more convenient to just use Chrome since you're also using Google, somehow using both products from the same house should be better, right?
If that's the case, Edge would be clear winner and it's still not. No, Firefox just... isn't good anymore.