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Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by SllX »

vlark wrote: post #222
OrlandoHakim wrote: post #194

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What is controversial about Brave? Seems like the best alternative at the moment IMHO

Some folks object to the Brave Rewards system and the embedded crypto wallet.

I just disabled all of that. No Chromium browser is my main browser but when I need one, Brave seems like the best option.

If you were to pick between Brave, Vivaldi and I dunno, maybe Edge, just for when you need Chrome-compatibility and pretty much no other reason, which one would you pick and why?

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by e2le »

rackjack wrote: post #186
abandonliberty wrote: post #174

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I can't believe the apologists commenting on this. Firefox put a lot of effort into tracking download to install behavior. Maybe this is the only violation you know about. There's no reason to continue to believe in Mozilla's good faith. They've been captured, and are 90% dependent on Google revenue. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28954390 Firefox is dead. It's time to move past denial. It does…

What're the alternatives to Firefox? The only ones that come to mind are Opera and Brave, and Brave had some controversy too.

LibreWolf is one alternative.

https://librewolf.net/

https://privacytests.org/

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by Ayesh »

mastazi wrote: post #115

Wait a second, can someone with more knowledge explain how Google Analytics is related to everything else? I don't understand the following sentence from the article: > This data will allow us to correlate telemetry IDs with download tokens and Google Analytics IDs.

IIRXC, Firefox has (had?) Google Analytics in new tab page and settings page. I don't think it's the same as standard web tracking script, but rather API calls with specific events.

It is likely that they correlate the dltoken, Google Analytics tracking ID, and Telemetry IDs.

The Google Analytics usage in Firefox is very difficult to Google, and I wholeheartedly wish my memory is wrong about this, because it's a very worrying thing otherwise.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by nmz »

toastal wrote: post #233
sn41 wrote: post #229

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I still often use Lynx, and eww when I am in Emacs.

NetSurf GTK and w3m are still on the list for me

Useless alternatives. you might as well suggest we use gopher. frankly they'd be better as gopher browsers.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by GlumWoodpecker »

SllX wrote: post #231
vlark wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some folks object to the Brave Rewards system and the embedded crypto wallet.

I just disabled all of that. No Chromium browser is my main browser but when I need one, Brave seems like the best option. If you were to pick between Brave, Vivaldi and I dunno, maybe Edge, just for when you need Chrome-compatibility and pretty much no other reason, which one would you pick and why?

Ungoogled Chromium.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by fabrice_d »

ex_mozilla wrote: post #230

I'm posting anonymously for obvious reasons. I've been working at Mozilla since its inception. And eventually left the company 2 years ago. And I'm so mad. Mozilla is not the Mozilla that was created almost 20 years ago. It's not the same people there. After the Firefox 4 nightmare, they started hiring product managers from big corp. We started seeing some ex-twitter, ex-microsoft, ex-amazon joining the company. Peop…

Don't you think Mitchell is a big part of the problem? She controls both MoCo and MoFo. She is a good motivational speaker but a terrible operational exec.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by Dylan16807 »

ex_mozilla wrote: post #230

I'm posting anonymously for obvious reasons. I've been working at Mozilla since its inception. And eventually left the company 2 years ago. And I'm so mad. Mozilla is not the Mozilla that was created almost 20 years ago. It's not the same people there. After the Firefox 4 nightmare, they started hiring product managers from big corp. We started seeing some ex-twitter, ex-microsoft, ex-amazon joining the company. Peop…

Why the "maybe"?

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by mionhe »

Mathnerd314 wrote: post #184
rodamaral wrote: post #170

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Some people use Tor within Firefox via a SOCKS proxy. This might defeat the protection given by Tor.

Right which is why the Tor FAQ says using a browser besides Tor Browser is dangerous and not recommended: https://support.torproject.org/tbb/tbb-9/ It's like how when you're baking a cake, the easiest way to do it is to buy a cake mix and follow the directions on the back. Yes, maybe you can make a tastier cake by changing the directions or using better ingredients, but you also introduced the possibility of the cake…

...what ingredients are you putting in your cakes?
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