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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by excursionist »

cooperadymas wrote: post #39

Is it safe to say we're in the middle of the Software Wars? The headlines have been littered with stories like this lately. From major open source contributors taking down their projects, to Apple, Adobe, and Blizzard. It's only a matter of time until it's a critical piece of software that can cripple a nation or beleaguer it's people. If you're looking for positives, maybe this will finally force people to rethink d…

> It's only a matter of time until it's a critical piece of software that can cripple a nation or beleaguer it's people.

Hopefully this pushes more people to use open source software.

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Post by theseadroid »

cco wrote: post #223

I said a similar thing yesterday but I think it has become clear that importing from China was mostly fine for our country, debatable on the lost jobs and environmental part sure, but exporting to China was a poison pill that we never should have swallowed. China has become less liberal, in the meaningful ways, since Nixon "opened up" China in the 20th century. And the flip side is that when we began exporting to the…

Hey, I wonder where did you get the less liberal part? From my experience China has become greatly more liberal during the last 30-50 years. When Nixon "opened up" China it was during the culture revolution and those were really tragic years for Chinese people. Since then average Chinese has become less poor and more liberal steadily each year.

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Post by _bxg1 »

This is why Trump's trade war is the only thing he's done that I support. I'm not even sure he's doing it for the right reasons, but at this point trashing the economic coziness between our nations is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. This can't continue.

And in addition to chilling investment in/from China it's giving India and Vietnam an opportunity to get footholds in manufacturing, weakening the sector that was central to making China such a powerhouse to begin with.

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Post by craftoman »

I play Hearthstone and sometimes I watch Twitch. I once watched two major hearthstone GMs dissing about how tough and weird they're getting treated by Blizzard during tournaments. Every single word that comes out of mouth is carefully evaluated by supervisors and you have to be stand-by like 10 hours ago before the remote event in front of your PC without any reasons.

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Post by bena »

SantalBlush wrote: post #274
tomp wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well thank God then that wasn't my argument. What I'm saying is, China is co-opting modern liberal censorship in the West to do it's own political censorship (edit: in the West).

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"Censorship" isn't just being imprisoned.

Censorship is the simple act of not allowing someone to say something.

Companies censor all the time. Movie studios. Recording companies.

I've noticed this trend with people, they identify something as negative, in this case censorship, and then they try and contort definitions to excuse their involvement in it. Because that's a bad thing and they're good people and good people don't do bad things.

I'm going to come in with a hot take: censorship isn't inherently bad. It just is. Censorship can be used to focus discussion on what's important. To keep garbage out of discourse. Those are good uses of it. Yes, it can be used to simply silence dissent. That is a bad use. But just because it can be used in a bad way doesn't make it bad itself.

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Post by goatinaboat »

MaupitiBlue wrote: post #343
abbadadda wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point it goes far beyond just gamers. From the NBA to Google, this effect is everywhere. To be explicit, the effect is U.S. firms letting China dictate what they do or do not care about on a global political scale.

Let’s not forget Marriot’s capitulation last year.

Or Gap https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/15...?

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Post by falcolas »

tpurves wrote: post #312
zwaps wrote: post #139

Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…

A better solution would be for all hearthstone pro players to start talking about hong kong on solidarity.

That would be the equivalent of asking them to quit (Or rather get fired from) their jobs. They aren’t paid well enough on average to do this easily.

I hope they do stand up for what they see as right, though. I just understand why they might not.

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