Curious why they are changing CEOs if they want to continue the culture and community.
GitHub was not profitable, obviously you change the CEO.
Microsoft acquires Github
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#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.
As a developer Microsoft has treated my far better than any other corporation pushing an agenda. Amazon seems kind of apathetic towards any one developer or group, Google and Apple can be down-right hostile in their policies or support. Microsoft has by far hosted the most events that I have access to, ranging from global developer conferences to user-group meetings.Their tooling and developer support has always been…
As a former windows phone user and .NET developer who is currently a mobile developer, Microsoft definitely treated mobile developers worse than any other company.
They killed what small progress they’d made on their ecosystem 2 times, simply because they got bored and decided they didn’t like the technology stack they’d previously mandated and supported. They deserved to get buried in that space.
Meanwhile Apple have kept what is essentially the same technology stack for the past decade. Sure there’s been some pain, but almost all of it had some purpose that moved the development of apps forward.
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#413I realize that Atom is fully open source, but I'm a little concerned that this puts VSCode and Atom under the same roof. I feel that those platforms are where the innovation in text editors has been recently, and can't imagine that MS will fund two products that compete directly with each other and that without that direct competition, they won't work on improving either.
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#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a developer Microsoft has treated my far better than any other corporation pushing an agenda. Amazon seems kind of apathetic towards any one developer or group, Google and Apple can be down-right hostile in their policies or support. Microsoft has by far hosted the most events that I have access to, ranging from global developer conferences to user-group meetings.Their tooling and developer support has always been…
How did they treat Windows Phone developers? How did they treat Nokia employees? Mhmmm.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't the plan.
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#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a developer Microsoft has treated my far better than any other corporation pushing an agenda. Amazon seems kind of apathetic towards any one developer or group, Google and Apple can be down-right hostile in their policies or support. Microsoft has by far hosted the most events that I have access to, ranging from global developer conferences to user-group meetings.Their tooling and developer support has always been…
How did they treat Windows Phone developers? How did they treat Nokia employees? Mhmmm.
> How did they treat Windows Phone developers?
I was one of them, and Microsoft treated me very well.
Windows Phone was an amazing platform. I’ve also developed for iOS a lot. Visual studio + expression blend was way ahead of apple’s xCode. Every single piece was much better: language, libraries, compiler, debugger, emulator, UI designer.
The platform is now discontinued so I no longer develop for WP. Meanwhile, most of the skills I’ve obtained working on WP7-8 apps apply to other XAML-based platforms, i.e. WPF, WinRT, and UWP. Fortunately for me, Windows is not going from desktops any time soon.
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#416Github has been losing the battle in the enterprise world to Gitlab. The latter has more appealing features to enterprise users. So this acquisition in some sense a great opportunity for Github as well to enter enterprise under the wings of Microsoft.
My company uses GitLab because it's less expensive than GitHub.
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#417The acquisition is for $7.5 billion[0]; dividing by the 28 million active developers on GitHub, that's ~ $270 per developer.
[0] https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-g...
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#418People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
Some people get offended when for-profit companies turn out to be not neighborly or friendly or human beings. I like to look at it from the perspective that they are a for-profit public company and are legally required to maximize shareholder value, and they have every right to do so. Therefore, any plans I make regarding GitHub will not rely on them being friendly and kind-spirited in any way. If they turn out to be…
If that works out good for you, great. I know that GitHub has every right to do what they think is necessary to maximize shareholder value.
But I don't have to agree with their decisions.
I don't trust Microsoft for pretty much exactly the reasons the parent listed.
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#419Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting, where are the financials for GitHub available? What sort of deficit were they running? I think the answer would be 'a company without a history of ruining things one loved' -- my recent experience of Microsoft is very negative too (though I've seen some awesome tech demos of their's). GitHub being unprofitable makes the situation worse because one knows then MS intend to make major changes: either to des…
> GitHub being unprofitable makes the situation worse because one knows then MS intend to make major changes: either to destroy it, or squeeze money from it. GitHub no longer needs to directly turn a profit now that it is owned by Microsoft. They just need to use GitHub to increase their profits from Azure (or any of Microsoft's other money makers). I don't think they need to make drastic changes to GitHub for that t…
How do you envision them forcing^W encouraging use of Azure, or other MS paid offerings, through GitHub?
I can see that working if they don't meddle with GitHub for the next decade, and keep it running well; then people might be convinced to try MS's other offerings.
Maybe Heroku style "run this project on your own Azure instance now" (perhaps GitHub does this already?)? Is Azure's rep good enough to pull that off?
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#420I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…
The Surface RT was discontinued in 2015, and was manufactured in 2012. Is this an six year old anecdote? Sorry, but these days I feel like there are more anecdotes involving the Surface RT to prove that "Microsoft hates Linux" than there are actual Surface RT devices still in active usage, but yet people still eat this stuff up. > That's their endgame whenever possible. Their "endgame" was six years ago and hasn't co…
> The Surface RT was discontinued in 2015, and was manufactured in 2012. Is this an eight year old anecdote?
The current year is 2018, right? Or did I miss something :)