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Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by aucisson_masque »

Nextgrid wrote: post #106
rkangel wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, and Stripe is "just" a payments platform. Openrouter is easy, reliable and performant (like Stripe).

> Stripe is "just" a payments platform Counterpoint: you can't just go to Visa/Mastercard or a merchant acquirer out there and set up an account on the same terms that Stripe can. On the other hand, you can sign up to any LLM provider and get API access on terms that are the same or better (since I'm sure they don't appreciate having a middleman and would benefit from incentivizing direct usage) than OpenRouter gets.

Openrouter is fragile, one good competitor and they are at risk.

Or if one of the provider suddenly decide to forbid openrouter from using their api. Why would they do that tho ?? Well it's not like execs never take dumb decisions.

In my humble opinion, it's extremely overpriced. But then, it's just the standard with AI currently. Divide every ai company valuation by 1000 and you might get it's real value.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by miroljub »

dayeye2006 wrote: post #399
nikcub wrote: post #294

I love OpenRouter, long time user. Stripe will hopefully be a good custodian. I just want to point out some features of OpenRouter that make it more than just a model selection and routing endpoint and that I find incredibly useful: 0/ Default routing is to the cheapest provider, but they're usually not the most performant. I'd guess 99% of OpenRouter integrations never tweak the default routing. Here you can setup c…

noob q -- does the routing hurt cache hit rate?

Of course, of routing the same session to different providers.

But don't worry, many providers there charge for cache the same price like non cached ;)

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by rajnathani »

apexalpha wrote: post #194

Great product, been using it for a while. Turns out even a proxy can be worth $8bn with the right business model behind it. Users get an array of providers competing behind a single API, meaning they have to compete on price and quality not vendor lock-in. This encourages users to join OpenRouter over specific model vendors. Providers get easy access to revenue (and data) and new customers with little to no ad spendi…

> Turns out even a proxy can be worth $8bn with the right business model behind it.

People said a similar thing for Cursor simply being a VSCode wrapper for when it crossed unicorn status.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by namjh »

OpenRouter is great business I agree, but I'm not still convinced how the integrity of providers' models is ensured. In other words, can't the provider serve DSv4 flash advertising it as DSv4 Pro?

I'm aware that OpenRouter checks response quality onboarding, and does further checks occasionally, but I'm concerned that it's basically a cat-and-a-mouse problem between the scammers and the detectors. For example, there could be a signal that a specific pattern of requests are from OpenRouter's quality testing bots. Or, they can just route 1% of requests to an inferior model and benefit a small gain, hoping it fits into the statistically allowed margin.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by mmoustafa »

namjh wrote: post #405

OpenRouter is great business I agree, but I'm not still convinced how the integrity of providers' models is ensured. In other words, can't the provider serve DSv4 flash advertising it as DSv4 Pro? I'm aware that OpenRouter checks response quality onboarding, and does further checks occasionally, but I'm concerned that it's basically a cat-and-a-mouse problem between the scammers and the detectors. For example, there…

Yes, it is awfully inconsistent today. They run some tests (accuracy table buried on model page) but they are sparse and only capture a single moment in time. I would love to see OpenRouter take this more seriously.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by pbreit »

nikcub wrote: post #294

I love OpenRouter, long time user. Stripe will hopefully be a good custodian. I just want to point out some features of OpenRouter that make it more than just a model selection and routing endpoint and that I find incredibly useful: 0/ Default routing is to the cheapest provider, but they're usually not the most performant. I'd guess 99% of OpenRouter integrations never tweak the default routing. Here you can setup c…

This seems like something xAi could reproduce in a weekend

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Post by 999900000999 »

rajnathani wrote: post #403
apexalpha wrote: post #194

Great product, been using it for a while. Turns out even a proxy can be worth $8bn with the right business model behind it. Users get an array of providers competing behind a single API, meaning they have to compete on price and quality not vendor lock-in. This encourages users to join OpenRouter over specific model vendors. Providers get easy access to revenue (and data) and new customers with little to no ad spendi…

> Turns out even a proxy can be worth $8bn with the right business model behind it. People said a similar thing for Cursor simply being a VSCode wrapper for when it crossed unicorn status.

Microsoft is really really bad at marketing and making products consumers actually want.

I really think they only know how to sell Azure.

No reason Microsoft couldn’t have shipped a better version of Cursor considering they wrote the IDE cursor is based on.

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