Yes, which is why we should stop installing them and use air to air heat pumps instead, which do both. Bonus - you can throw your bulky, ugly radiators out too!
They are noisy though and many people including me would hate air heating, my airways suffer enough already.
the interior units are very quiet in my experience...
What's wrong with heating air? It was the norm in every house I grew up in...
Sitting here in central London on the day of the conference it seems a bit wimpy to me. Max today is 34C which is hot but not life threatening. Some trains may be delayed but they do that all the time. I assume the LSE library is aircon. Most such buildings are these days.
You'd think a bit of heat would be a bonus given the topic.
> Blindly putting AC everywhere ... actually works just fine. How do you think mass AC adoption in the US happened? Window units work just fine. Fancy splits and central ducting can come later. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
Look at the population graph of a city like Las Vegas. It basically didn't exist before the invention of AC. Window units don't work in most of Europe because our windows aren't compatible with them. If they were, I would have one . And again, it doesn't solve the core cause. If you want to cool down your home, your first step should be to stop heat from entering . If you can get the same result from €900 of shades a…
Though I fully agree a passive heat prevention solution is better, for my house the number were: nice shades (that open and close electrically): 7K, AC unit that also functions as heater in winter allowed the central heater to remain off foor all but 2 days this winter: 1800 (including installation). I used to hate AC's, and kinda still do hate the how they look. But I am pretty happy so sit in a 25 deg living room when it is 35 outside. And the AC runs on my own solar, I have plenty anyways
Agree Especially as air conditioning are heat pumps. Would have helped solve the large dependency on natural gas heating for free as a byproduct!
In the UK my understanding is there are large subsidies for installing heat pumps in new builds - but you lose the subsidy if you include the cooling part. NB: a friend in construction explained this to me so I could be wrong but it would explain why even pretty fancy new apartments with heat pumps have no cooling.
For new builds the only subsidy is zero VAT, which now applies equally to all heat pump types, so this should hopefully change soon.
Existing properties are eligible for the Boiler Upgrade Scheme which also now covers air to air (ie. reversible) systems.
There's still a bit of "what? no radiators?!" cultural resistance to overcome, but I'd expect this to fall away quickly as the climate continues to warm.
Europeans don’t get scolded enough for their resistance to air conditioning. In terms of accounting for preventable deaths, Greece has 2x more heat-related deaths per capita annually than Mississippi has gun deaths. By comparison, the worst US state for heat related deaths, Nevada - a literal desert - has >10x fewer deaths per capita than Greece.
Nearly all of Nevada's heat deaths are recorded in Las Vegas, so are you saying Americans cannot built proper system in a single town?
They are noisy though and many people including me would hate air heating, my airways suffer enough already.
the interior units are very quiet in my experience... What's wrong with heating air? It was the norm in every house I grew up in...
Yeah, the outdoor units are quite often not quiet. Which matters with houses on small plots very close to each other. For that reason a water-water (earth-water) heat pump would be preferable as that's much more quiet but also much more expensive.
My nose simply doesn't work with it, I get an allergy-like reaction that never stops (non-allergic rhinitis), and my wife has the same issue, and many people I know too.
Europeans don’t get scolded enough for their resistance to air conditioning. In terms of accounting for preventable deaths, Greece has 2x more heat-related deaths per capita annually than Mississippi has gun deaths. By comparison, the worst US state for heat related deaths, Nevada - a literal desert - has >10x fewer deaths per capita than Greece.
But wouldn't be better if people would invest in better home insulation and ventilation? It would help in the winter also. I say this because since the early 90s, my father installed air conditioning in our home, but in 2020 the building was redone (the building is from 1986), and whenever I return home in the summer, I don't need air conditioning. Just lower the roller blinds and open the windows after the sun passed.
40C in the Atlantic Spain with the Foehn effect (weather for today and tomorrow) would make 30C in Australia a joke. The humidity here it's hell. You feel 35C like ~42C in dry climates.
A lot of it is acclimatization. In Taipei this morning, at 9:30 it’s already 31C and 73% humidity, forecasted to hit 37C by noon. My first year living here this was unbearable, but now it’s tolerable. It’s just summer, not a spurious heat wave.