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EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Post by mrtksn »

kvgr wrote: post #364
mrtksn wrote: post #277

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I'm not so sure about that. Elon Musk and Trump promised something of this sort, created the DOGE department and ended up not saving anything despite claiming to uncover waste. > Dying out, pyramid scheme retirement system mostly. The solution to this is more creampies 20 years ago, no government action can change that. Every generation pays for the retirement of the previous one and if a generation makes less kids t…

Well the slovak goverment alone stole billions of euros. Stole. Imagine if we didnt have to pay all the farm subsidies to keep 5 goats in mountains. Or to pay hungary for lookout towers in the middle of nowhere.

Sound like you should go after the Slovak government

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Post by Gud »

vaylian wrote: post #176
Gud wrote: post #163

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As a Swede(working in the energy sector no less), Sweden has only themselves to blame for their catastrophic decisions, like killing a world leading nuclear industry. Don’t blame Germany for Swedens incredibly stupid decision to shut down functioning nuclear reactors prematurely.

Why was the German shutdown premature?

I was speaking about Sweden.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Post by lifty »

miroljub wrote: post #374
sevenzero wrote: post #325

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It's one of the idiotic "our tax money is spent for bicycle lanes in foreign countries" mindsets many right wingers share in Germany.

Just because you accusse people to be "right wingers" because they don't want to fund bicycle lanes in foreign countries doesn't make them wrong. If you want to fund bicycle lanes in foreign countries, go start a fund an fund them privately. For the people that don't know the topic: - yes, German taxpayers are indeed funding bicycle lanes in foreign countries - it's not the only waste of money going to foreign countr…

I agree with your characterisation of what is going on, and at some point, the EU states will have to decide for full fiscal integration or for removing the common currency. You can't have a common currency without a common fiscal union. So we either have to integrate more or desintegrate more, this inbetween we have now is not working very well. Speaking as a European, not sure what is better.

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Post by erispoe »

direwolf20 wrote: post #356
moritzwarhier wrote: post #271

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Companies are treated like persons legally and while I'm sure there is too much bureaucracy in many places, I'm also sure that there are important documents that should be required. For example to make sure that a company can be held responsible when it breaks the law. There are already enough loopholes to disconnect legal responsibility from profit-taking, and not every company is benign. Sure, if the documents cann…

> For example to make sure that a company can be held responsible when it breaks the law. This is the reason Germany hates small companies. Germany wants you to be a sole trader with no liability shield. Some people hack the system by registering a company in another EU state such as Lithuania.

That's not a hack, if you operate the entity from Germany, it must be registered in Germany. It's often touted as a tax loophole, but it's not. Tax authorities do not care about you unless you actually make money, then they will come after you.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Post by zdragnar »

baby wrote: post #298
academia_hack wrote: post #168

It's inordinately difficult and expensive to start an LLC or SA in some EU countries. It's even difficult and expensive to _stop_ an LLC and dissolve it. Huge amount of risk and cost on founders and a huge distraction from running a business. I think that EU-Inc _could_ be an improvement, but it needs to avoid the committee laundry list of ideas/requirements/form fields that plagues the EU startup ecosystem. My worry…

Having a startup in the US is a huge mess due to all the states and taxes, if Europe can make everything digital AND easier, it's a no brainer for us to move our company there.

Why would moving to the EU mean you don't have to deal with states and taxes? Would you abandon the US market completely?

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Post by philipallstar »

embedding-shape wrote: post #375
jagrsw wrote: post #361

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I don't know much about corporations, but why business plans are needed at all? I mean, for EU citizens. bank (loans), immigration and investors can be interested, but their interests are not covering every corporation out there.

It's basically a proof of "most basic effort" that you're serious. You could probably note down some stuff on a single A4 and get it approved, it doesn't have to be a 40 page dossier. Kind of like fizzbuzz, just something really simple and most basic to get rid of the "easy scams" and so on. Edit: So "easy scams" are probably the wrong word, I initially wrote "riffraff" because in my mothertoungue that isn't so... di…

How would this get rid of easy scams?

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Post by alibarber »

karavelov wrote: post #211
veltas wrote: post #193

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> This is clearly about EU and Europe UK is in Europe.

I am sorry to break the news, but UK is not in EU, so registering a company in UK is of the same effect as registering it anywhere else outside EU

And yet I'm not seeing an awful lot of advantage of registering in the EU then if this campaign has to exist - clearly there's a big enough friction to registering / running a company within the EU itself.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Post by philipallstar »

embedding-shape wrote: post #296
egorfine wrote: post #289

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There is a huge spectrum between "require impossible documentation" and "require none". Germany and EU are heading towards the former.

Literally the whole effort this submission, is about is moving a tiny step towards "require none" but not go all the way, compared to how it is today. You chose the wrong submission to comment that on, in any "new regulation in EU" submission that might have been appropriate, but this move is quite the opposite of what you say is happening.

This isn't an EU move, is it?

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Post by matesz »

lava_pidgeon wrote: post #263
matesz wrote: post #216

My Dear German friends, please accept that EU-inc is a massive boost for EU competitiveness. Continuing to block progress here only proves that the EU is good at making promises on paper but fails to deliver real change. The reason this "28th regime" actually works—and bypasses the previous vetos — is that it’s optional. It doesn’t try to force Germany to change its local GmbH laws or kill the notary system overnight…

This idea was made by French and German government . I'm not sure why do you think the German government is against it.

> This idea was made by French and German government

It is true, but lets face it - it is just a high-level proposal. Better than previous ones for sure, but still just a proposal.

And there is a massive gap between the PR and the legal reality. Germany and Austria already torpedoed the previous attempt (the SUP) specifically because it allowed online formation without a notary.

So I would advise against certainty in that the fight is over. I also don't want to wait another 10 years. Honestly by that time just setup topco in UK and if series A will come just do the flip later if you don't want to go to SV straight away.

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