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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by ForHackernews »

stingraycharles wrote: post #348
dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

What part of a TOS is ridiculous? Claude Code is obviously a loss leader to them, but developer momentum / market share is important to them and they consider it worth it. What part of “OpenCode broke the TOS of something well defined” makes you think it’s all Anthropic’s fault?

Do you think Anthropic followed all the ToS of every website on the internet when scraping them for training data?

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by everfrustrated »

paolomainardi wrote: post #246

Not strictly related, but since Copilot could be the next to violate the TOS, I've asked for an official response here: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/183809 . If someone can help raise this question, it's more than welcome.

GitHub doesn't offer any unlimited style AI model plans so I don't think they'll care. Their pricing is fairly aligned with their costs.

This only affects Claude as they try to market their plan as unlimited with various usage rate limits but its clearly costing them a lot more than what they sell it for.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by realharo »

kar1181 wrote: post #278
dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

Anthropic want you to use claude code cli badly and are prepared to be very generous if you do. People want to take that generosity without the reciprocity. I don't normally like to come down on the side of the megabigcorp but in this case anthropic aren't being evil. Not yet anyway.

Well they are doing the same to website owners who rely on human visitors for their revenue streams.

Both scraping and on-demand agent-driven interactions erode that. So you could look at people doing the same to them as a sort of poetic justice, from a purely moral standpoint at least.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by dathinab »

dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

I guess it's another case of:

- effective moneytizeability of a lot of AI products seem questionable

- so AI cost strongly subsidized in all kinds of ways

- which is causing all kind of strange dynamics and is very much incompatible with "free market self regulation" (hence why a company long term running by investor money _and_ under-pricing any competition which isn't subsidized is theoretically not legal (in the US). Not that the US seem to care to actually run a functioning self regulating free market, even going back as far as Amazone. Turns out moving "state subsidized" to "subsidized by rich" somehow makes it no longer problematic / anti-free-market /non-liberal ... /s))

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by davely »

bandrami wrote: post #111
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not up to you or me. I think it's pretty clear by the phrase "Claude Code subscription" that it's meant for only "Claude Code". Why are you confused? This could be so easily abused by companies who spend thousands of dollars per month for API costs you could just reverse engineer it and use the subscription tokens to get that down to a few hundred

Can I script and scrape Claude Code to provide the exact same data for consumption by the banned client? (This sounds like an interesting challenge for Claude Code to try...)

Claude Code provides a headless mode that you can do this exact same thing with:

$ claude -p “fix the eslint in file XYZ”

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by everfrustrated »

Sewer56 wrote: post #108

Here's how to get a refund on the website (all automated): 1. Profile Icon -> Get Help 2. Send us a Message 3. Click 'Refund' Big corpos only talk money, so it's the best you could do in this situation. If you can't refund, and need to wait till sub runs out after cancelling, go to the OpenCode repo and rename your tools so they start with capital letters. That'll work around it. They just match on lowercase tool nam…

Really useful thanks!

I signed up thinking Claude Code was an IDE and really disappointed with it. Their plugin for vscode is complete trash. Way over hyped. Their models are good but I can get that through other ways.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by everfrustrated »

Szpadel wrote: post #189

inference costs nothing in comparison to training (you have so many requests in parallel at their scale), for inference they should be profitable even when you drain whole weekly quota every week but of course they have to pay for training too. this looks like short sighted money grab (do they need it?), that trade short term profit for trust and customer base (again) as people will cancel their unusable subscription…

>inference costs nothing

Clearly not true. Just look at OpenRouter model providers. Costs are very very real.

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