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Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
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Trump has spent the last year (decade actually) doing a disgraceful show of pleasing a dictator who invaded his neighbour. To say nothing of his own authoritarian projects at home. And let's not even get started about Netanyahu.
How can you talk about this as if it was a crusade for justice against dictators? Some people are just terminally gullible.
Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
#403Not too much info out yet, but I'm guessing one of these happened:
A) Maduro negotiated some deal for himself and his family.
B) His whole military leadership sold him out.
(A) Makes sense if you assume that he had no other exit strategies. If he could have fled to Russia, he'd already done that. I'm thinking that Trump pressed hard on Putin not to take him. With no strong allies left, there's no exit for him. At best he'd be exposed to full-scale invasion by the US, civil war, or other internal power struggles.
(B) Makes sense if you assume that someone simply took the bait, and were flown out of Venezuela with the US operatives. But from a military perspective, it wouldn't be easy - any serious country has contingency plans, and there are many moving parts. Obviously one (or many) generals could provide these things in great detail, but there are still hundreds, if not thousands, of military personnel that will stick to their procedures once shit hits the fan.
From what I've seen, some airstrikes took out AA systems. And there's been reported some fighting back.
I don't know. (A) sounds a bit more likely to me. By any measure, the man was backed into a corner. I think his hail marry was for Putin to offer to save him. But that never happened...a big clue will be how Russia, and the Russian disinformation campaigns react to this.
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#404Yup. Venezuelans voted for the Bolivaran Revolution. This is it. We shouldn’t waste our time with it. Especially because every time we topple a regime like this it creates a refugee crisis and a huge influx of refugees to the U.S.
The US already had a huge influx of Venezualan refugees because of the Maduro regime.
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#406Marco Rubio needed this for his presidential run in 2028. Does this mean that Putin will look the other way for Maduro as long as Trump looks the other way when Putin captures or kills Zelenskyy? Have they officially agreed to divide the world as spheres of influence?
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#407Two wrongs don’t make a right. Regardless of your opinion on Maduro, you can still acknowledge that the head of a sovereign state being captured in an unannounced/unnamed military operation by a superpower is wrong from a principled standpoint, and that it’s destabilising a country with 30+ million people if not the entire region.
Maduro is not the head of a sovereign state. The President of Venezuela is Edmundo González, the winner of their last election[1]. To know if this violates Venezuela's sovereignty, you would have to ask their President. Personally, I fully support this operation, unless their President indicates otherwise. It's a good day for democracy and freedom.
[1] https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2024/08/02/what-are-the-odds-...
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Unfortunately I believe an invasion of Greenland is more likely.
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> Dictators will go to sleep just slightly more terrified tomorrow night.
And Putin?
Mark another instance of ignoring the US Constitution down. Sounds a bit like America has their very own dictator.
Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
#410Yup. Venezuelans voted for the Bolivaran Revolution. This is it. We shouldn’t waste our time with it. Especially because every time we topple a regime like this it creates a refugee crisis and a huge influx of refugees to the U.S.
The US already has a refugee crisis because of Maduro's leadership, that refugee crisis is one of the reasons for this.