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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by zrn900 »

mft_ wrote: post #52
wrxd wrote: post #49

> estimates only an 80/20 chance of finding a suitable provider It would be nice to know what the requirements are. There are plenty of providers in the EU happy to sell cloud services

They should read HN. Don’t they know you can get Hetzner servers starting from $5/month?

This sounds funny now. But Hetzner has been moving into a cloud direction consistently. They recently rolled out VPCs, load balancers and all that. They are slowly building the blocks to provide what we generally call a cloud.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

AndroTux wrote: post #384
generic92034 wrote: post #317

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But would you need those functions to run your ERP and CRM systems (see the article)?

Yes. At an airbus scale, most definitely. But to give you another example (from the article): Try migrating Google Workspace to an EU solution. Actually impossible. I tried it myself, and gave up. The closest you’ll get is Proton, which isn’t EU to begin with and doesn’t even have half of the features Google Workspace offers.

Well proton isn't Eu but its switzerland and I think that proton is going to move some of their servers to germany after switzerland had this questionable decision which feared privacy services (including proton)

Proton recently got proton sheets/proton docs

Personally one of the largest issues I have with proton is the lack of extensibility. Like google has app scripts and similar api's but proton's lack of api's have frustrated me so much that I have built an api over scraping/using a puppeteer instance over it but its still in very finnicky state

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Post by zrn900 »

everfrustrated wrote: post #390
sunshine-o wrote: post #35

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One of the reason is a lot of those "EU Sovereign Clouds" were malicious cash grabs. It happened several times in the last decade: - First politicians raise the alarm about "digital sovereignty" - Then some create new EU sovereign clouds that are pitched/forced on corporations - They usually do not work, get consolidated and then the scam is revealed The biggest reveal was when we discovered and warned one of our cli…

Didn't the Spanish govt just award Huawei a contract for their lawful intercept program? You can't make it up.

There isnt any irony here. Huawei equipment was investigated by British and German intelligence agencies and was found to have no backdoors. That's why some countries are heavily buying it.

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Post by mopsi »

tmnvix wrote: post #396
mopsi wrote: post #366

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> There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted t…

> Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. Jacques Baud, recently sanctioned by the EU for promoting conspiracy theories. https://data.europa.eu/apps/eusanctionstracker/subjects/1802...

He is not an EU citizen and, as a foreigner, acts as a mouthpiece for a hostile dictatorship. The US has sanctioned similar people too, most notably Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of Russia Today: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2559

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Post by [deleted] »

everfrustrated wrote: post #385
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #55

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Lmao but in all honesty, there are a lot of european cloud providers that I know and they are even cheaper than american counterparts like aws, azure, gcp. Personally I like european cloud too but I dont have so much as an preference and it depends but the current environment of america does seem a little hostile but not the fault of datacenters in america but I hope that hostility slows down

Sadly there are still no European cloud providers. There are European hosting and VPS companies with aspirations but that's not the same.

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Post by pezezin »

carlosjobim wrote: post #112
alphager wrote: post #101

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Disbanding the EU is an official goal of the new US security strategy.

The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.

Spanish guy here: no, we don't hate the EU, quite the opposite. Please stop feeding on right-wing propaganda that wants to destroy us.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

AndroTux wrote: post #383
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #63

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OVH? Upcloud? Scaleway? (searching more I found Koyeb, bunny cdn offers deno similar to cloudflare workers)

None of these remotely come close to their US counterparts. Not by a long shot.

I had created this comment on your other comment on one of my other comments that there are no cloud providers and so I am wishing to talk about both of these at the same comment perhaps

I do not know about the others but OVH (even with all of its flaws) is definitely a cloud provider

I got so damn overwhelmed looking at all the services offered by OVH once and I found some niche services which would most likely be underrated by many but if one wants at scale cheap cold storage, I recommend OVH's cold storage because they cost only 2$ per month/TB storage long term but have only 12$/TB ingress/egress compared to the egregious 100$/TB (or so I have heard) AWS's outage and where you have to play this little dance of shutting down AWS itself or something to not pay it but I genuinely think that OVH has a lot of features

I am not kidding but when I say overwhelmed, I truly meant it so much that I had to take a walk outside to put things into mind, I was looking for partnership opportunities for OVH tho that time but in my mind I have rejected them because they are too big to partner at a small scale In my opinion

OVH has the 2nd most meaningful high content or similar metric (I forgot the website which shared it) after AWS, it had more high traffic websites overall even more so than gcp

Personally I do not like this complexity. Just give me compute and storage and let me handle the rest but I don't really like OVH thaat much (my opinions change overtime too) but please look more into it if you genuinely want european cloud provider, I am interested to know about it, What are the metrics which qualify for the "long shot", I am genuinely curious and wishing to discuss honestly.

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Post by nothrabannosir »

MangoToupe wrote: post #389
victorbjorklund wrote: post #334

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Does that mean Hawaii isn’t part of US because it’s far away from mainland?

You got it baby, free hawaii

How do Hawaiians feel about this? Just in case: what would you consider a valid qualification for Hawaiians, for their opinion on this matter to be material? And how many of them support an independent Hawaii?

I looked online but didn’t find any hard numbers, only vague movements. Scottish independence for example seems to have substantial , if minority , support. If the same cannot be said for Hawaii, then this comment feels… like a cop out.

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Post by [deleted] »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #157
xorcist wrote: post #67

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Pray tell, how much of, say, the latest Afghanistan war did the US pay and how much do their allies need to bear? The rebuilding of a whole country, the reinstatement of the Taliban regime, the destabilization of the region, and the still ongoing stream of refugees? The political aftermath of which is still felt in Europe.

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