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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by hollowturtle »

sixtyj wrote: post #327
beardyw wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me AI is like having a young graduate come to live with you as an assistant. It's happy to do some research for you though not very inspired. But make lunch? No. Do some cleaning. Def no, but happy to chat about how you should do it. It all seems a bit pointless in the end.

Be patient. In few years, it will be a senior graduate :)

How could you positively and constructively add to the discussion by literally having the truth in your hands of what the future will be? The only thing I know it is that it's not even a young graduate, as soon as you have someone with a bit of domain expertise it will tell you how many lies they output

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by whycome »

bredren wrote: post #374

OpenAI picking up where Apple Intelligence continues to severely lag. I'd prefer these features were bundled into MacOS. Where possible, process using FoundationLLM, and having Apple reach for their own privately hosted instance of a frontier model when needed. It seems obvious to me the company must transform macOS's capabilities here as quality AI assistance is enmeshed in the operating system's UX as a whole. I th…

The whole integration thing is weird. Siri sucks. ChatGPT can be triggered in a similar way. Siri can use ChatGPT. AppleIntelligence is garbage. I think apple is in a weird crisis spot where they can't quite figure out how to integrate it all, and are scared of ditching Siri entirely. Or maybe any kinds of ChatGPT integrations have just been stopgaps.

Or, they go way deeper into integrations. They let ChatGPT in deeper. And they even give up that coveted 'default search' spot that Google pays them ~20b a year for. Atlas seems like it would compete with Safari?

It is interesting that OpenAI seems to be doing an Apple-first approach with some of its projects (sora2, Atlas)

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by zghst »

ragequittah wrote: post #330
sloankev wrote: post #306

Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people? Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak. [0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/

I'm not so sure this is much worse than Chrome. Really in today's world if you're not browsing the web like multiple people are looking over your shoulder you're probably doing it wrong. And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized. The one solution I do like is the iCloud private relay which I hope some reputable VPN…

You are so me, exactly.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by airspresso »

mlnj wrote: post #50
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

>I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. That's the first thing that came to mind. Every single action across every single website would be available to OpenAI with this browser. Even if I wanted to leverage something like this it'd have to be a fully local LLM interacting with a huge local DB of my…

How is that different from Google Chrome? Not debating that it's scary to have all that context collected in one place, just saying it's already been status quo on the web for years.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by yoavm »

ncr100 wrote: post #52

Could this be an Extension, for Chrome / Firefox / Edge / and others ? Are these extension-fodder: - "new tab" shows custom UI with LLM prompt - Reads contents of user's web page in Chat UI, shown alongside web page - new UI gizmo at Text-selection, showing ChatGPT flower icon, with context features available for selected text - maintains "agent personality / context" (IDK the term) across tabs

Chrome / Firefox / Edge and others will have their own AI implementation sooner or later. OpenAI's choice is whether they want to be a second class citizen competing with a native AI integration, or start their own country where they are the ones setting the rules.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by duxup »

beardyw wrote: post #300
gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

To me AI is like having a young graduate come to live with you as an assistant. It's happy to do some research for you though not very inspired. But make lunch? No. Do some cleaning. Def no, but happy to chat about how you should do it. It all seems a bit pointless in the end.

AI is like those folks happy to give advice / tell people what to do ... but they seem kinda incapable at those things themselves.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by AmericanOP »

cush wrote: post #238
gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

It’s always “Book me a flight” or “write an email”. Like all we do is email people about where we’re flying next

This is what always happen when your general purpose tool needs to be marketed through use cases.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by AtNightWeCode »

AtNightWeCode wrote: post #278

I actually built my own browser on top of Chromium to be able to use both Claude and ChatGPT ad hoc for various tasks in the browser. Fact is that I use my OS native text to speech more than the LLMs... Anyhow. The problem is that the LLMs are simply not good enough. And as someone who processes a lot of data through LLMs daily via APIs. The quality is just poor. Clearly LLMs does not work as stated. The fluctuation…

It is funny that only morons can down vote on HN. I'm pretty sure I am better than any random idiot on HN on this topic since I worked DAILY with these issues for a couple of years. Years before there even was an official "AI browser".

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by tolmasky »

infecto wrote: post #361
gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

Did we watch the same demo. Maybe I skipped over those parts. It nailed one of my immediate needs. Grocery shopping. I really don’t want to waste time adding items to my Walmart shopping cart for pickup or delivery. I want to send a bunch of recipe videos, get back a book of my version of how to format a recipe and also a cart full for me to click purchase. They nailed this.

If this ever gets popular then sellers will “optimize” their product listings to exploit the LLM (a “soft” prompt injection if you will). This will definitely be the case in marketplaces (like Amazon and Walmart). It’ll turn the old boring task of shopping into a fun puzzle to spot the decoy item or overpriced product.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by hollowturtle »

infecto wrote: post #361
gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

Did we watch the same demo. Maybe I skipped over those parts. It nailed one of my immediate needs. Grocery shopping. I really don’t want to waste time adding items to my Walmart shopping cart for pickup or delivery. I want to send a bunch of recipe videos, get back a book of my version of how to format a recipe and also a cart full for me to click purchase. They nailed this.

I'm Italian, I love cooking in my free time, it's also part of our culture. I honestly can't figure out what's stressfull and time wasting shopping for groceries, I often get lost inside the smell of vegetables, pickin the right one, looking for the right color, even optimizing for cost and less waste. I find it so relaxing and like a zen experience
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