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You not knowing something doesn’t make it not exist. https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/study-shows-how-effects-... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4377509/ https://www.brown.edu/news/2016-12-12/famine

Confusing the effects of starvation with Lamarckian inheritance is a fundamental category error. If starvation affected every cell in your body except for the gametes, that would be worth investigating.

> with Lamarckian inheritance is a fundamental category error

Would you believe that things are more complex than neat categories discovered in 1850 that you learn in fifth grade?

Starvation is just the most studied aspect of this as it is easier to find control groups. However, you could easily search and find others, which you don't seem to be willing to do for some reason.

This is not groundbreaking research, this has been known for a while. The current focus is to understand possible non-genetic pathways for this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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> the safest painkiller currently available Likewise I find it one of the least _effective_ painkillers on the market.

What do you prefer?

Given the side effects for the low level of pain that it can handle?

Nothing.

Narcotic analgesics are a godsend when you actually need them.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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The charitable interpretation is that it is simply a more sensitive and accurate way to say that. It puts aside all the big is beautiful and similar takes and points to the fact that many American kids, especially those in certain parts of the country are now afflicted with metabolic syndrome (which is closely associated with mitochondrial disfunction). It is well-known that overloading mitochondria with sugar is qui…

Have you heard the term “sanewashing”? I don’t think the principle of charity requires us to replace false things he did say with thematically similar things that might have been reasonable. It’s like “explaining” that a crystal healer is just referring to the stress reduction benefits of aesthetically pleasing knickknacks.

My take is that overall he's right. The obesity epidemic should be our primary heath focus. Heart disease and obesity are the primary killers of americans.

You can in fact determine a huge percentage of americans including children are incredibly unhealthy just by looking. Increased focus on exercise and negative incentives on soft drinks and sugary beverages does seem like a major step in the right direction.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Why not?

Stresses the liver, also if its used frequently for mild inconveniences you should maybe go to the doctor, as frequent headaches or stuff like that can hint to more severe stuff.

If you go to doctor with mild annoyance, they wont take you seriously.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Well this should be provable within about 5 years if this Tylenol is truly the cause. Let's just have a few states in the US eliminate Tylenol usage during pregnancy, and watch the autism disappear. Any volunteers?

At this stage, the entirety of the US is a sample of less-than-willing volunteers…

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I wonder if this hating on autism is part of the regime's focus on loyalty. Autistic people tend to make their own plans and are much more independent. I'd never be able to follow orders in an army for example. Whereas the current administration is all about loyalty over facts. They even make the meteorological employees do a loyalty test now so they'll follow the narrative and not the science.

As someone who’s done work with the whole spectrum of ASD: it’ll be fascinating to see if the diagnosis gets weaponized eventually. Right now, MAGA seems to still like “Hi-IQ nerd disrupters”; but the administration would be perfectly happy to sell off an ally for political gain.

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Up until yesterday it was vaccines. Now it’s acetaminophen, and nobody is batting an eyelash at the about face.

The discussion about vaccines has been toxified in blue states - may as well throw out another reason to keep the crunchy skeptics on board.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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There is research correlating autism and mothers taking certain medications (painkillers, antidepressants). Since autism is hereditary, there is a significant chance that these mothers are autistic too. Autistic people have a vastly high risk of depression, and often have unusual pain thresholds, requiring more painkillers. I would not be surprised of the correlation was real, but the direction of action was reversed…

tl;dr: Spurious correlation machines produces results. Pirates and Climate change surprisingly disagree.
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