Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 8:29 AM UTC

zug_zug wrote: post #202

rdrd wrote: post #7

I find the wordsmithery on Meta's statement the most interesting: “We do not track your *PRECISE* location, we don’t keep logs of who everyone is messaging and we do not track the *PERSONAL* messages people are sending one another," it added. “We do not provide *BULK* information to any government.”

This is just a lie. I personally know somebody who worked at meta and they had a whole set of teams dedicated to building tools for governments to mass-export data based on their queries Now I don't know the exact details of which governments had which access (was it just for warrants, which nations, what was the line between actual terrorist versus persecuting journalists), but there was absolutely bulk export and t…

Post by gerash » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 8:39 AM UTC

dash2 wrote: post #51

hexomancer wrote: post #46

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Iranian here. Most Iranians use Telegram or Whatsapp, both of which are blocked right now and can only be used using VPNs (they have been blocked for years, though whatsapp was unblocked a few months ago, but it is blocked again after the Israel attack). I don't think many Iranians believe, or care about what the regime says, though there is a small minority of regime supporters that might, but they probably were not…

Do you think it’s likely the regime will fall?

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 8:48 AM UTC

anon291 wrote: post #204

lenerdenator wrote: post #152

All of this to avoid saying "We'd be fine with you existing within your pre-1967 borders."

I'm not sure why we should be 'fine' with people existing in their pre-1967 borders. I'm not advocating any military action, but the idea that we should just shrug while a great classical civilization's entire history and archaeology are being held hostage by iconoclastic religious zealots is not something any humanitarian should just shrug at.

Post by mgraczyk » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 8:49 AM UTC

consumer451 wrote: post #350

mgraczyk wrote: post #298

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Is there any evidence Meta has ever intentionally lied about anything? Like do you have any examples?

Ha. This is why the best lawyers in the world work for these people. Over drinks, when I brought up some of the blatant dark patterns in the ad market, someone who worked at one of the biggest companies in the world responded to me bluntly: "yeah, sure, but have we ever lost a case in court over click fraud? No, we have not."

Post by gerash » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 8:58 AM UTC

gspencley wrote: post #41

msgodel wrote: post #13

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Why are we toppling all these foreign governments and creating instability that breads terrorism in places that otherwise have nothing to do with us? This seems so exceptionally counter productive.

> Why are we toppling all these foreign governments I don't want to speak to the other foreign governments, and I think there is a LOT of room for healthy criticism of how the USA handles its foreign policy, past & present. But to answer the question directly with respects to Iran, specifically: the leadership has been repeatedly chanting "Death To America" for its 45 year history and have been actively trying to dev…