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Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Nope! We sure don’t! Not on purpose any way. But the businesses sure want us to. This mostly happens at smaller stores and not big chains.

I've given stores bad Yelp reviews for daring to ask. I tip people in tipped positions really well. No way in hell I'm giving a penny to someone who only rang up the stuff I carried up to their counter.

Are there technically/legally any “tipped positions” in Washington? Since tipped minimum wage is not a thing.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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post #181

Having spent some time at the Microsoft campus, I can tell you this is basically the consensus view from employees today. Ballmer was not a cool, trendy, or fun CEO who people rallied behind - but he more or less "got the job done". He was the captain of a massive ship with a turning radius the size of a continent guiding it through icebergs. Azure's success was specifically set in motion under Ballmer. Owed to the f…

Ballmer hated Linux & open source. He would've driven their cloud division to the ground trying to sell Windows servers in the cloud. It would've taken him another 20 years to accept that Linux was key to the cloud. VSCode (Visual Studio Code) - would never have taken birth. Microsoft survived and thrived once Ballmer had no option but leave. In this era of Python development, Microsoft Windows still feels a step or…

You can run Linux servers on Azure (and Hyper-V), so it’s worth taking the ‘hate’ against Linux with a grain of salt.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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post #334

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Well since Nadella I have been using less Microsoft products and probably won’t be using Windows anymore once my Windows 10 LTSC stops working. I keep hearing praise for Nadella but all he is doing is alienating a lot of customers with his terrible decisions.

Ballmer would never have put honest-to-God advertisements in Windows Solitaire .

I always had the feeling MS was squeezing competitors and software vendors, not users directly.

The user hostility have made me move me to Linux systems.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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post #164

Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

Tipping is a fundamentally flawed and exploitative system

I guess if you are talking about the customers then you technically might have a point…

tipped workers would probably be making considerably less on average than now if tipping just disappeared. Especially in states like WA, CA, NY etc. which don’t even have a tipped minimum wage

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

Everyone, chill Regardless of how you feel about tipping culture we're not talking about the average person nor are we talking about the average * experience* . The dude is worth north of $100bn, and is making nearly $10k per minute![0]. Someone who cannot spend his wealth. Someone who'd have to spend tens of millions of dollars every single day just to stop his wealth from growing. Someone who makes money faster tha…

So what's your point, should he have tipped?

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

Everyone, chill Regardless of how you feel about tipping culture we're not talking about the average person nor are we talking about the average * experience* . The dude is worth north of $100bn, and is making nearly $10k per minute![0]. Someone who cannot spend his wealth. Someone who'd have to spend tens of millions of dollars every single day just to stop his wealth from growing. Someone who makes money faster tha…

That's crazy, i didn't know that. That is a guy who is 2 orders of magnitude above a 'mere' billionaire. And for what? Because he was friends with bill gates at Harvard, and employee#30 at microsoft. Talk about capitalism's greatest mistakes.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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post #149

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Scott Guthrie is the one who drove Azure. Dated 2013, a year before Nadella became CEO: https://www.change.org/p/the-microsoft-board-of-directors-as...

Azure existed long before ScottGu took over. It started with dueling projects from Ray Ozzie’s world and Bob Muglia’s world. Ray had great ideas but no idea how to run something like Azure at scale. Bob brought the enterprise mindset and retooled it, and of course Scott owns the lion’s share of the credit for its growth and technical qualities.

BobMu left Microsoft because he was not sold on cloud, he was an advocate for 'on-prem' solutions (and for its time it made sense since enterprise customers were against cloud).

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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post #353

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Actually, there is a restaurant where I go sometimes that when I pay cash instead of with a credit card, the owner gets so elated that rounds down the amount to pay in some 3-7%. The countertip I guess.

Restaurants and bars especially in my city love tax evasion - that's why they are so enthusiastic about cash payments.

Yes thats normally the main drive, cash is usually just annoyance and additional risk to business.

I wouldnt be too harsh judging that business though, quite a few restaurants are barely cutting it so this may help them stay afloat. Its this or generally higher prices in restaurants.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Waiters in the US make more than their peers in: Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, etc. That's thanks entirely to the tip system.

Britain has tips. Every restaurant adds 12.5% as an 'optional' charge but they know full well that Brits are allergic to causing a fuss and will never ask it to be removed. Do US waiters really get paid more than UK with PPP/forex? You seem to have the data to hand.

Seattle is allegedly about on par with London CoL wise.

Min wage for tipped workers is $17.25 per hour. London is ~$18. So with exorbitant tipping it should be considerably higher?

Also taxes might be lower.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Waiters in the US make more than their peers in: Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, etc. That's thanks entirely to the tip system.

Got a citation for that? Lots of waiters in the US make $2/hour or something before tips (can anyone correct me here?) where the expectation is that tips will bring them up to $7-8/hour, more in line with other minimum wage jobs.

> will bring them up to $7-8/hour

Maybe 20 years ago? Almost nobody in the US is making that little these days regardless of the Federal minimum wage.

And in nicer states you get $15-20 + tips.

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