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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by antonok »

mcpackieh wrote: post #292
jorvi wrote: post #217

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I've actually recently switched from using uBlock in Brave (desktop Brave) to the built-in blocker. They both use the same selectable filter lists, so I notice barely if any difference. I'll also scuttle Cookiebro once Brave's cookie auto-delete moves out of beta. Less extensions means less attack surface.

Selectable filter lists isn't close to uBlock equivalency, that's just table stakes for any adblocker. As far as I've been able to determine, in Brave there is no way to view a list/grid/matrix of which domains are being blocked and which sort of content is being blocked; this is a feature I use in ublock origin / umatrix a lot and don't wish to go without. (For this matter, ublock origin in advanced mode is claimed…

FWIW, in Brave you can create cosmetic filters using the right-click context menu. `Brave > Block element`. There's a shortcut to the page where you can manage your custom filters in that menu, too.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by donkeybeer »

mrguyorama wrote: post #312
donkeybeer wrote: post #244

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And their constant user hostile redesigns. Suddenly tabs are floating separately from their pages. And now if a page is playing audio you can no longer see its favicon, etc Speaking of mobile firefox where did Save as PDF vanish and why? and so on edit: I have been told in a reply the save pdf feature still exists but has been changed for no reason to a different location in the menu

"The favicon will show a special icon to show you which tab started autoplaying some stupid video" The utter horror. It's so user hostile to make an easy way to see which tab is the source of the annoying sound you are hearing. Oh, and it doesn't hide the favicon unless you have so many tabs open each tab can only fit the favicon. So for probably the vast majority of users who don't spend their days with 300 tabs the…

SO I checked on a fresh profile with the floating separated tabs and all and there it shows some text underneath the tab saying playing, and the playing icon only when you hover the tab, taking the place of the favicon...which...is an even stranger behavior compared to the older design. It looks like the userchrome work to remove the gap between tab and page had caused the playing icon to show under it, which means i will have to work hard some more to combine both behaviors back to the older style ie no tab gap and both playing icon and favicon visible at same time. Either case I see no justification for this borderline bizarre change.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by godelski »

worble wrote: post #167
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #133

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I've yet to notice any event where firefox "screw users over" that was not vastly overblown, especially compared to the competitors. People tend to just judge Mozilla way more harshly. It's very unfair: they do good, and we ask even more of them.

I know that its against the rules to imply this, but seriously, there is always so much vitriol that I just don't understand thrown towards Firefox every update that it really gets the old noggin get going. Can we seriously not even contemplate the idea that there might be a certain corporate entity out there with a vested interest in ensuring that Firefox usage is kept deliberately low while at the same ensuring the…

Honestly in my original comment I almost tried to make a joke about how this website calls conspiracy on far less. But I didn't know how to properly do it and so removed it. But yeah, you're not alone in thinking this looks like astroturfing. But I'm not entirely convinced it is not-natural. FF did fuck up in the past, but I think people are still angry about the browser 10 years ago and not updating their beliefs. I think there is also a bias because Mozilla is 501c and so their fuck-ups and everything is out in the open. It's like comparing a democracy to an autocracy, and thinking the autocracy is better because you hear that the people are doing well and never hear about things going wrong.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by donkeybeer »

cpeterso wrote: post #366
mrguyorama wrote: post #321

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>the change to tabs floating disconnected from the pages What does this mean? My experience using tabs in firefox has not changed in like twenty years!

The "user hostile" tab design change was the addition of a space of a few pixels between the tabs and address bar: https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/1/22463321/firefox-design-re...

If they had just thickened the continuous bar connected to the tab a few pixels I probably wont even have noticed. Instead introducing a gap between the tab and its page completely changes its look making it seem like its floating separately and the tabs are independent buttons. But the point is either of these makes no sense at all. What even was the point of this weird change from the perfectly functional and normal looking tabs before?

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by godelski »

Nextgrid wrote: post #328
mrguyorama wrote: post #325

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Are you pretending that chrome doesn't advertise ? Every single fucking day for a decade now, google.com told me to install chrome, and would even render "pop up" dialogs to that effect on google properties!! What are you all smoking?

An ad telling you to install Chrome is one thing. I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar like Mozilla constantly does. Also, ads on websites are one thing. Ads/nags within the browser itself (which I'm already using) are another. I'm pretty sure Google doesn't bother advertising Chrome to users who already use Chrome.

> I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar

I constantly see Chrome ads about privacy and security. Your argument also isn't consistent. Your complaint is that Mozilla has "failed" to achieve their stated goals. The quotes because they've definitely made progress towards that, but just not to your expectations. That is fine to have higher expectations, but you're literally discouraging Mozilla from working in that direction, where others aren't making those moves __at all__. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

And can we stop copy pasting that line? You're starting to sound like a bot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyUIEYE13jE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXnLAa6zWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9_3umb5LY

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by dralley »

maverick74 wrote: post #344
matheusmoreira wrote: post #283

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Check out this news post from 5 days ago about Mozilla's finances: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37015592

I was not aware of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This just made my mind blow up... If it's true, then it's REALLY BAD!!!

You really, really, really should not take anything Brian Lunduke says at face value.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by dralley »

OfSanguineFire wrote: post #342
mrguyorama wrote: post #330

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Ah yes, meanwhile I still get to use the only browser not made by the Gigacorp trying to put advertising anywhere they can. People get so pissy about mozilla pissing away a few dollars here and there, or maybe is full of people just extracting cash from the brand. Meanwhile google as a corporation extracts a tax on pretty much anything that touches the internet. But sure, mozilla is the bad guy here and we shouldn't…

> People get so pissy about mozilla pissing away a few dollars here and there It’s more than a few dollars. For years now, the majority of the Mozilla Foundation’s income goes to things other than developing Firefox.

>the majority of the Mozilla Foundation’s income

The Mozilla "Foundation" does not develop Firefox at all. In fact they cannot do so. Because that would be tantamount to a nonprofit devoting resources towards the service of a for-profit business.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

asu_thomas wrote: post #400
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #354

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Yours is a false dilemma. Being aghast at Mozilla’s non-profit mismanagement does not mean that one is using any other browser. A lot of us here are using Firefox but hoping and praying that the Foundation will be called to account or development will be taken over by some more benevolent and competent force.

Your efforts come across as facile to me. You're wanting a democratic organization, or at least one capable of acting in the interests of the consumers despite the fact that more consumers does not necessarily benefit the organization. This is an unrealistic expectation given the political economic circumstances, being those of late-stage capitalism. Even the most benevolent leader is constrained by their circumstanc…

Look, I’ve only seen two comments from you (with your very new account), but both of them are trying to introduce an element of political battle beyond the subject of discussion here. Not interested, sorry.
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