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Post by lolinder »

tester457 wrote: post #329
optymizer wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Internet I loved was full of random forums and text websites. If anything, I'm rejoicing and hoping this will mean less centralized forums. Y'all realize you can just not use reddit and Twitter right? You can host your own forum on the Internet

The discovery hurdle is too big for me to rejoice.

The discovery hurdle was part of the charm for me. I liked the era of small, niche communities where you knew everyone and developed real relationships with people that you never met in person. Discoverability is what leads to Eternal Septembers.

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Post by firecall »

hackernewds wrote: post #186
jug wrote: post #85

Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now Nitter. :-( I'm happy Lemmy is kind of taking off. I think it's helped more than Mastodon because it's less realtime/feed focused and slower paced. It also doesn't require you to form a friend circle to benefit. Instead, the community is waiting for you already.…

What is Lemmy?

Front Man for Motörhead. RIP.

Is Lemmy named after Lemmy?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by defulmere »

It looks like status updates on https://status.stripe.com are tweets.

The most recent updates are available on that page, but for anything older than that you'll need a Twitter account to read stripestatus on Twitter. Even their Atom feed is a useless river of "A status update was posted" titles with truncated tweet content and t.co links.

It's such a shame, Twitter used to be so useful for stuff like this.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by dathinab »

So basically twitter is just about to die????

My argument is:

Because they remaining main usage of twitter seem to be people "tweeting" small important (from their POV) bits of news. This could be political news but also e.g. announcements of content creators.

The changes in the algorithm already where not so grate for some people for this use case.

But most important for this use case is that this tweets need to be world readable even if not world discoverable.

With this gone a lot of people now have to look for a place where they can do world visible announcements, and at that point why not only use that place? Especially if it doesn't require you to e.g. buy something like twitter blue to increase the chance that people subscribed to you see your announcement.

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Post by havnagiggle »

darknavi wrote: post #121
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

Finding communities is the toughest part.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by johannes1234321 »

thomasahle wrote: post #153
KSteffensen wrote: post #35

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Why the hell are government agencies using Twitter/Facebook for official communication in the first place? At the very least if these sites are being used for official communication that might be critical to peoples safety some sort of privileged status or ToS should be negotiated. Can you imagine Musk banning some random non-USA government agency because he had a fit while high at 3 am? Also: https://xkcd.com/743/

> Why the hell are government agencies using Twitter/Facebook for official communication in the first place? It's the responsibility of the government to make information available where the citizens are. As the citizens moved from radio and TV to social media, the government followed.

It is right to be present on Twitter. But the question is: Should it be the single/primary channel or only secondary channel filled from a primary source, like their website?

Of course, running a website, which allows those quick edits requires with dealing with secure infrastructure, maybe apps dir field agents to write something etc. which they could all outsource to Twitter (and vendors of tools built around Twitter API for scheduled tweets etc.)

Its somewhat similar with public broadcasters (BBC, German ARD etc ) putting their content on YouTube (where consumers are) vs their sites (where they control it, including privacy concerns)

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Post by BobbyBrownGD »

m4jor wrote: post #333
brushfoot wrote: post #198

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I'm cautiously optimistic about Lemmy. Anyone can spin up an instance, so it's decentralized, but instances are connected, so there's community. It may still be rough around the edges, but to me it feels like the spirit of the old phpBB forums combined with almost 20 years of lessons learned from Reddit.

Lemmy.ml's admin is pro chinese government and actively censors comments that are critical. What that means to you is your decision, but I want to make people aware before the mass migration date arrives. https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14k67qt/l... Highly sus

Lemmy's team is very politicized, but even then it took significant pushback to change their minds about an issue that the community was decrying for reasons that were almost entirely technical.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622

I would not bed with these fellows myself.

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Post by Solvency »

zmmmmm wrote: post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

I mean... for decades, the public institutions instead relied on private TV networks to do all of their communications. And propaganda. And they still do.

How is Twitter any different than FOX News or CNN?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by firecall »

twicetwice wrote: post #332
coldpie wrote: post #175

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Not really. Blue Sky is the most promising replacement I've seen, but it's just another for profit company, so it will follow the same pattern eventually. I think an official government Mastodon or similar would work, but it really needs to be something hosted by a competent IT dept (meaning federal, in the US), with strict and well considered policies (who gets an account on it?) and with massive buy-in at all level…

fwiw, Bluesky is fully federated (well, will be, it's in development, but it's well on the way, they just launched the federation sandbox the other day), and identities are portable, so it shouldn't be susceptible to the same dynamics as twitter. Plus, the dev team has stated a number of times that "the company is a potential future adversary" is one of the principles they keep in mind when designing the protocol. Pl…

The issue I see is that the Tech Community, that form and influence opinions, is going to be cautious about investing time in another private social media company.

Mastodon has the mind share already as the de facto Twitter replacement.

Bluesky looks suspiciously like it’s dead in the water.

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