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US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Reading through the slides, it appears that what has been discussed is sharing signature and fingerprints for travel into the USA. There is a lot of weasel words, but it's probably worth nothing that the USA currently collects this information for foreign nationals coming into the USA (as the EU does for Americans traveling into the EU). This is being done in the context of a DB query as part of the e VISA applicatio…

> It's worth noting that almost all of this is still the output of the 9/11, where US and Saudi systems did not communicate and resulted in known terrorists in Saudi Arabia being able to travel at will into the USA.

> I don't like biometrics, but the hyperbole needs to be tuned down a bit here.

The entire official response to 9/11 is the hyperbole, not the criticism of those measures.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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I'm not sure that hyperbole is possible when you're discussing the necessity of having worldwide biometric "terrorist" lists that countries like Saudi Arabia would participate in. ----- edit: How would you code "terrorism through public demonstrations of driving while female" or "terrorism through being Yemen?" "Terrorism though applying for a marriage license after being mildly critical in the WaPo."

> terrorism through public demonstrations of driving while female Do you think Saudi Arabia is the Taliban or what? Even when it was banned, it wasn't the big of an offense. And yes its no longer banned, and there are a lot of women drivers now.

They executed shia cleric for being... shia cleric. If it would help them catch them they would put him on such a list to get similar persons deported from host countries.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Look at the map of the earth and notice how isolated and far away USA is from the rest of us. Why do we let USA companies and military & gov. puppets do their destroying outside of USA? Why ? Europe and asia should ban USA and all of it's companies and specially the nato/military to enter or steal & destroy anything from outside usa. Why do we let them do this destruction ?

The somewhat tongue-in-cheek response is because the US annually spends more on their military than like the next 10 biggest spenders put together. You wanna dislodge them from that? Find some way to outspend them; Until you can do that, might as well be friendly with them.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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This is why I do not recommend centralized walled garden called Signal. Try that with Matrix.

Matrix metadata is not private.

Unless you are using your own server?

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Look at the map of the earth and notice how isolated and far away USA is from the rest of us. Why do we let USA companies and military & gov. puppets do their destroying outside of USA? Why ? Europe and asia should ban USA and all of it's companies and specially the nato/military to enter or steal & destroy anything from outside usa. Why do we let them do this destruction ?

Because might is right, and the USA is #1 ;)

This is true but short-sighted approach IMHO. In age when China will be a close match to US in superpower-related terms (even if its less efficient they have sheer numbers on their side), US would be more than wise to make true proper long lasting friends rather then bullying everybody else to its whims.

Or it might find itself more and more lonely and less relevant globally. It takes just few steps to make big dent in that - international payment systems, oil cartels, military bases in Africa, military equipment +-on par with west etc.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Finance background here. All these PEP, sanction lists, ofac monitoring, financial sanction lists already exist and every company with a worthwile monetary turnover ever facing an audit runs these background checks. The laws are there, they are called the aml directives, the lists are there. And most of the entries there are provided by eitjer uk or us entities, youll usually find foreign military personells data the…

On the related topic of Arabic names, I currently visiting Tunisia. The other day I asked one of my friends how to spell her name using Latin letters, and she said “you can use one C, two Cs, one K, it doesn’t matter.” Now I’m wondering how many people have problems because their names have been casually spelled a few different ways and linked to someone else’s name in accident.

The US doesn't care: if your name seems to match a terrorist's, you are that terrorist.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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One question that always seems to be unclear and insufficiently negotiated is reciprocity. What is the US going to offer in return. If they do offer to reciprocate, it actually needs to be delivered before the deal is live. That said, I think it is a shitty deal for these leaky, insecure, bad faith entities to be able to negotiate off to the side with our sensitive personal data like this.

The USA offers to continue the free visa agreement. If that ends, for reciprocity there won't be free visas for USA travelers to Europe too. It's lose lose but one of the two parties is always going to lose more than the other one. Which one? In the case of tourism probably Europe loses more from less USA tourists because of visa friction than the USA loses from European tourists staying at home. Business? It will ta…

Curious about free visas, as EU citizen in 2018 we had to go through full ESTA US visa approval process just to have a freakin' connecting flight in Miami to South America including paying for it, nothing free.

Its due to badly designed Miami airport compared to literally anywhere else in the world I've been, that you can't connect within 'safe' restricted zone after security checkin. No, you basically need to exit airport with all security involved (walk around checkins, go outside if you want) to get to your next flight, and walk throught all security again. At least luggage was transferred automatically, but most airports in undeveloped countries can manage that too.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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It's so horrible. They probably think that they're helping atheists by sending them to the afterlife early. But what if the atheist is right and when you die, your last moment alive becomes frozen in your consciousness forever.

>> what if the atheist is right and when you die, your last moment alive becomes frozen in your consciousness forever. I’m sorry what? Is this the predominant/common belief among other atheists? Pretty much everyone I’ve spoken with is more likely to think you just turn off, everything goes black, back to the void of unlife.

I checked: when you die, you rot. Atheist or not.

Where does the speed go when the car stops?

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