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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by born2discover »

possiblydrunk wrote: post #336

Completely understandable, within their rights, and highly symbolic. With so many Ukranian employees, what else would the CEO do? Sadly, though, it's just another punitive act that will hurt more people than it will help. Not clear that doing something is always better than doing nothing, even in war. Whatever you do should make things better. If not, keep thinking about what you can do that will actually make a posi…

Understandable yes. But within their rights? I doubt so. Contracts are binding for both parties (client and the company). What they are doing here is an intentional breach of contract. Depending on the jurisdiction it can have nasty legal ramifications.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by mmaunder »

For context, it looks like Namecheap has about 1700 team members in Ukraine, if I'm reading this right.

https://www.namecheap.com/careers/ukraine/

One of the offices is Kharkiv which the Russians shelled with cluster bombs: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/28/kharkiv-rock...

Sounds like it happened today - and the date/time on the article above is this evening:

https://twitter.com/_vsv_/status/1498458616155852805

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by awb »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #226
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

You are doing really dumb and hateful thing. The people that will be affected by this are usually the same who sponsor or even are the opposition. They were fighting Putin long before the war started and long before you started caring about it. It’s the same as to stop selling paper to members of White Rose resistance group [1], because they were Germans. A clear signal that risking your freedom or life does not wort…

> Putin was right and West is against them.

Counter point: Look at West Germany and Japan after WWII. The West changed tack pretty quickly after the war ended. The West wasn’t against the people, they were against the ruling parties and the infrastructure/policies that supported it.

If it’s possible to punish an authoritarian aggressor without harming the citizens, I’d love to hear ideas. But in Germany and Japan, the average citizen paid a huge price for getting caught up on the wrong side of the war and I’m not sure how much differently it could have been done without countering the unprovoked aggression of both nations of which other country’s citizens paid a huge price.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by _-david-_ »

contingencies wrote: post #44
hurflmurfl wrote: post #10

Great, now amid looking for ways to get my family out I also have to find another registrar who will not do the same thing and transfer my domains so that my cloud and email are still working. Any politically neutral registrars that HN crowd can recommend?

Gandi are no bullshit . Ask them.

Namecheap used to be that way. They put out a blog post last year about how they support free speech.

https://www.namecheap.com/blog/internet-freedom-the-state-of...

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Vermeulen »

born2discover wrote: post #391

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This is a nation that just invaded a democratic country, and you call actions against them 'cancel culture'? This isn't some celebrity on Twitter losing their job - it's a private company that no longer wants to give tax dollars to a evil regime

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by jacquesm »

breakingcups wrote: post #256

Let me prefix this by saying I'm not Russian, I have no ties to Russia whatsoever and I strongly oppose Putin's actions in Ukraine. That said, I wonder about the legal ramifications of this move. Namecheap is essentially unilaterally terminating a (probably yearly) contract without the other party being at fault per se. There's no legal cause. Will they be refunding the customers they are kicking out? Or will they be…

In a vacuum, yes. But the bar has been raised a bit by having one country threaten to annihilate the world as we know it, and is presently at war with the country that hosts the workforce of the suppliers. In the past trading with the enemy would get you put up against a wall, this is a very logical and understandable step.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by jopsen »

Alir3z4 wrote: post #62

Received the same. Such a shitty move. Moving some left over from them to nic.ru Why not ban every single US and NATO country users for the slaughter of many countries including but not limited to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Palestine, Yemen, Libya... because of the actions of their government? Fuck this mentality that makes the life of ordinary people harder and call it "sympathy".

> Fuck this mentality that makes the life of ordinary people harder and call it "sympathy".

The sanctions will do this too. They will make Russians very poor, it might take time -- but odds are ordinary Russians will become poor.

That's sad, but what is the alternative?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by [deleted] »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by [deleted] »

hurflmurfl wrote: post #10

Great, now amid looking for ways to get my family out I also have to find another registrar who will not do the same thing and transfer my domains so that my cloud and email are still working. Any politically neutral registrars that HN crowd can recommend?

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by mdoms »

ainar-g wrote: post #78
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. Putin has announced recently that cross-border payments in USD and EUR are to be blocked. Which means that most Russians affected by this won't be able to pay for a registrar outside of Russia. People here have mentioned transferring their domain names to NIC.RU, the state-owned registrar. Which means that Putin actually receives more money because of th…

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