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Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by GlacierFox »

Pr0Ger wrote: post #200
vytvy wrote: post #156

Enough is enough for Russia and customers from there. This is just a beginning, You and your Hitler=Putin started WW3 in Ukraine. Your leader is telling the world that he is ready to nuke Ukraine or any NATo country or US if someone will try to do anything to him or help save people in ukraine that your soldiers are killing. So yea, if businesses and society won't step in and stop sponsoring Russia which is killing a…

How much money did Europe paid to Putin for gas supply in last years? They are still paying him even now because they value cheap gas over human lives. Don't try to play saint card, West is also responsible for sponsoring this bloodshed

Russia is a fantastic supplier of gas and petroleum. What's your point here.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by calculatte »

xtracto wrote: post #151
hereforphone wrote: post #133

If they're willing to terminate service for political reasons in this case, who's to say they won't do it in the future for other political reasons? Here begins the slippery slope of Namecheap terminating service to those it deems "wrong". Been a happy, confident Namecheap user for a long time. Now I'm not so confident.

I mean... I would be OK if namecheap decides to terminate the service for other countries that threat the world with nuclear bombs. I think that's a whole different level.

But countries that constantly drop non-nuclear bombs on other countries and murder civilians and children are still cool, right? USA only averages 46 strikes per day for the past 20 years. So maybe the cutoff is at 50.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by glerk »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

This is disgusting. You are punishing innocent people for the decisions of their government. Do you even realize that your behavior does not help your own cause? Do you realize that innocent Russian people banned from your platform will be encouraged to further hate the United States and support their government's war effort?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by kytazo »

oh thanks for the reminder to move off all my domains.. this proves my intuition right namecheap smells exactly like godaddy or w/e. Glad I do this cause who knows maybe our leaders will invade somebody and all of the sudden I'll be having another headache on top of everything else. Talking about human rights while you're abusing them by denying service to people that have absolutely no ties to their goverment but gods rnd dice rolled them into a certain country which happens to go in war with another.. pardon me but that's just stupid

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by breakingcups »

Let me prefix this by saying I'm not Russian, I have no ties to Russia whatsoever and I strongly oppose Putin's actions in Ukraine.

That said, I wonder about the legal ramifications of this move. Namecheap is essentially unilaterally terminating a (probably yearly) contract without the other party being at fault per se. There's no legal cause.

Will they be refunding the customers they are kicking out? Or will they be keeping the money for services not rendered?

Additionally, giving people only 4 working days to move out, especially in a situation as volatile as this, seems like a bad move. Anyone hosting their life on one of the domains affected (whether they are actually in Russia or mistakenly flagged as it seems happens a lot going by this thread) might not read the message in time. They might be in hospital, jail, without internet or otherwise unable to transfer in the very short time allotted. Again, not just the people Namecheap hopes to target, but also all the people they mistakenly flagged.

(And you can bet some disgruntled Russian customer will flood the support system with whitelist requests for all .ru domains currently pointing at Namecheap NS, overloading the support system for the remaining 4 working days until the deadline)

I understand that the Namecheap CEO and many of his employees are probably having a strong emotional reaction to the current war in Ukraine which is completely understandable. I fear this will not accomplish what they really desire though. And I don't think I'll be cheering them on.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by adamcharnock »

Symbiote wrote: post #22

They have 1700 staff in Ukraine, by far the majority of their employees, so it's not surprising that they see things differently to others. https://www.namecheap.com/careers/ukraine/

Absolutely. I know this is Putin's War, but imagine asking your staff to be professional and respond to your Russian customers when they can hear Russian fighter jets overhead.

On one hand we ask large companies to show more heart and humanity, and on the other hand we rail against them when they take a principled stand.

How anyone can expect a company to honour any corporate agreement in such an environment boggles my mind. Let alone company that sells domains and prides itself on being 'cheap'.

People and principles should come first, and money second. This is exactly the world we want to live in, right? Not some capitalist dystopia.

FWIW, I do not begrudge affected customers being angry, that seems very fair. I just also think this is a very reasonable course of action by Namecheap.

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