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Re: iOS 15

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Post by zepto »

samtheprogram wrote: post #382
zepto wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sound like you think they were lying.

Personally, I don’t, but I was trying to convey a neutral stance. That said, I didn’t like their approach of secrecy and, at least seemingly and anecdotally, doing it when receiving updates rather than over time based on some metric such as battery cycle count. I find this possibly related to their anti-repair practices.

> doing it when receiving updates

Updates are how they deliver updated battery management algorithms, not the metric they use to determine battery age.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by privacyisntdead »

GeekyBear wrote: post #348
privacyisntdead wrote: post #340

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Account is not the same as your device

Apple isn't scanning the contents of your device. They are discussing scanning content you upload to iCloud Photos. So, yes. It's the same.

"Before an image is stored in iCloud Photos, the following on-device matching process is performed for that image against the blinded hash table database."

https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Techni...

Apple disagrees with you.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by privacyisntdead »

user-the-name wrote: post #334
privacyisntdead wrote: post #330

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It’s not the same scanning. Apple’s scanning is on device while Google and others scan for CSAM in their respective clouds.

And why does that matter? Apple scans images that are uploaded to iCloud. Google scans photos that are uploaded to Google Photos. Exact same result.

It is not the same result. Scanning on your device using inaccurate methods is not the same thing as uploading your photos.

The method that Apple is describing is going to cause more harm than good. Look how faulty their methodology is - even they agree it needs to be fixed.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by matt-attack »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #28
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #7

Apple Maps is so close to being a fantastic app, but is sorely missing “search along route” that Google has. Right now, you can press the “coffee” or “gas” button but there’s no way to say, search for a CVS on the way back home from work. I really wish Apple added this instead of just suggesting searches that might be useful.

And not funneling me out to install the awful Yelp app just to read restaurant ratings. :|

Agreed. I refuse to use Yelp and hate that Apple doesn’t host their own photos of sites.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by matt-attack »

spiderice wrote: post #277
lotsofpulp wrote: post #69

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Apple Maps’ ratings were announced last year and seem to be rolling out now: https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/23/apple-maps-native-ratings-and...

I just installed iOS 15 an hour ago. So I checked to see if the new Apple Maps' ratings was in there. There is now a "Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down" button that allows you approve or disapprove of a restaurants Food & Drink, Customer Service, Atmosphere, and Overall experience. It also uses your on device location data to suggest photos that you took while at the restaurant, to include in your review. So it looks like it's f…

In iOS 15 it does look like you can browse more photos directly on a restaurant page before confronted with the Yelp button. So that’s an improvement I’d say.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by rozhok »

pgodzin wrote: post #238
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

Don't you have access to most of these similar improvements through updates to the respective Android apps (Photos, Messages, Translate, Camera, etc) rather than OS updates?

System apps doesn't receive separate updates. You can get update for Google translate though.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by memco »

sneak wrote: post #156
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

Meanwhile, after having every single major iPhone version since the original jesusphone, I'm switching from iOS to Android because I'd rather run out-of-date hardware and slightly more out-of-date software just to not have my phone spy on my local media contents for a remote master. Apple's days as a head-and-shoulders above clear winner are over.

I haven't made any moves away from Apple yet, but I'm cautious about upgrading because it isn't clear to me where the code for the scanning is in the current releases. They announced they were going to start scanning one day before the planned rollout, but it wasn't mentioned that an update was necessary so it seemed like it could've already been in iOS 14.x. I am willing to update to the newest version so long as there's still an opt out option by not upgrading to whatever version will include the on-device scanning. But if the code is bundled in already and is just dormant until some undetermined date then I'll be moving on. I'm not sure how I'll even know if it's safe to upgrade, but I'm hoping if there's any concern there'll be some news about it in the coming weeks.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by user-the-name »

privacyisntdead wrote: post #403
user-the-name wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And why does that matter? Apple scans images that are uploaded to iCloud. Google scans photos that are uploaded to Google Photos. Exact same result.

It is not the same result. Scanning on your device using inaccurate methods is not the same thing as uploading your photos. The method that Apple is describing is going to cause more harm than good. Look how faulty their methodology is - even they agree it needs to be fixed.

I have looked at it, carefully, and there really isn't any way for it to do harm. If you want to claim there is, I will want to hear the exact steps you are thinking of, and how they match the published details of the system.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by illiac786 »

mmcnl wrote: post #321

Focus Mode / Do Not Disturb infuriates me. All I want is for my notifications to not light up the screen and make any sounds except for calls. Is that so hard? It keeps getting more complex.

And Actionable Notifications are gone?? On gmail for example, I could swipe to the left, tap "display" (I think that's what it was called) and it would show me actions like "archive", "delete", etc. Now I have to open the app. Why??

Re: iOS 15

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Post by DCKing »

ewzimm wrote: post #374
DCKing wrote: post #256

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If in October 2013 you bought a just released Google Nexus 5, you would have had official updates until December 2016. At the end of support, you could have then bought the recent Google Pixel (1). And you would have had official updates until December 2019. A little over 6 years out of two devices is as good as it gets on Android, at least it's as good as it got in the mid-late 2010s. If in October 2013 you bought a…

It's ironic that unofficial builds have been able to support these devices so much longer than their makers. LineageOS has done great things. And Amazon has shown that longer support is possible. The Kindle Fire HDX, released on September 25, 2013, and still somehow their best tablet, received its last security update on November 3, 2020.

Here’s the thing with unofficial Android upgrades: they don’t have complete coverage in their security updates.

LineageOS and Amazon can’t generally provide security updates for older chips. Only Qualcomm can compile new kernels for the Snapdragon 800, say. And Qualcomm stops giving you updates after four years (recent change: it used to be the three).

The updates LineageOS and Amazon and anyone else provides are updates to Android’s open source components. That’s all great - but they’re not complete security updates, and driver issues are a big vector.

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