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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by matz1 »

lazide wrote: post #134
nickthemagicman wrote: post #122

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Oh I completely agree. But these two options seems to be the choices that are being discussed by the media and government. You're either pro Covid restrictions or you're a granny killer. I personally think we should quarantine the age 55+ crowd and let the people under 55 go about their business. The under age 55 group is like 80% of the population who have only 20,000 covid fatalities which is less than car accident…

How do you propose to isolate the > 55 age group when no one younger is isolating? Nurses, doctors, people they live with will be a vector and pass it to them. And the under 55 age group (at .11% IFR) is still not going to want out and blindly get infected as that is still hundreds of thousands of deaths - leading to them avoiding being out in sizable numbers and still causing economic problems. [Source: https://www.…

The economic problem due to lockdown > than the economic problem hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by burnthrow »

_throwawayyyyyy wrote: post #299
oh_sigh wrote: post #217

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> And, the deaths from Covid-19 in California are disproportionately Latino. Our communities have been the hardest hit. By far. Maybe that’s why we take the public health officials’ warning and directions so seriously. Does that follow? Wouldn't it seem more likely that California latinos statistically disregard health officials advice if they're being most impacted by a disease which doesn't care about ethnicity?

Yes it follows. \ "Wouldn't it seem more likely that California latinos statistically disregard health officials advice" - No. For example: a lot of communities have intergenerational families living in close proximity due to lack of affordable housing, jobs, redlining, etc. Having many people living closer together explains being "most impacted" as well as (obviously better than but hey I'm being magnanimous) your t…

> a lot of communities have intergenerational families living in close proximity due to lack of affordable housing, jobs, redlining, etc.

Having many kids is part of it too.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by Apocryphon »

bradj wrote: post #352
techsupporter wrote: post #277

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But that's rather my point: if you're living just in the larger metro areas, you're choosing to insulate yourself from the rampant discrimination and bigotry that, numerically, forms the bulk of the electorate and shape the cultural mindset. To be clear, that's not a bad thing that people make that choice; I would, were in that position. If Texas voters will finally vote in someone who is more like Ann Richards than…

I think you’ll find that that is true of all southern metros. Atlanta is different from Calhoun, Birmingham from Anniston, Huntsville from Madison, etc. It’s not that people are choosing to insulate - the metros are where the jobs are. Those metros have been changed by the influx of people, and if there were jobs the suburbs you would see the electorate change there as well.

That's true for California, Washington, Oregon, New York, and Illinois as well. The big cities in every state are going to be culturally and economically different from the countryside. The only exceptions are affluent tourism-oriented rural areas like Napa.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by danans »

scop wrote: post #310
glitchc wrote: post #252

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This doesn't make any sense. Why is the quality of life poorer in California compared to Texas when California has: Better schools across all grades, better universities and better weather? Perhaps there are other factors? Do demographics play a role perchance? From Wikipedia: 1) According to 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, California's population was 59.5% White (36.6% Non-Hispanic White), 14.7% Asian, 13.8% Some O…

I live in San Francisco. I literally do not see black people. I largely do not see brown people outside of the service industry (i.e. they are "kept back in the kitchen"). I will largely interact with only white people and asian people on any given day. Where I will be moving to in TX has more diversity than where I live in San Francisco, which is something I am happy about. My children will be seeing more black & br…

Enjoy Texas - cost of living is a very reasonable reason to move there. But know that the Bay Area is much bigger than San Francisco. To see more black and brown people people you only need to cross a bridge.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by dmode »

ekianjo wrote: post #9
bryanlarsen wrote: post #4

Criticizes California for excessive regulation, then moves to a state where it's illegal for Tesla to sell its cars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_US_dealership_disputes#T...

When you mention excessive regulations you might want to look at all regulations, not just cherry pick one of them to make a point.

Remind me of the abortion restrictions in Texas again ?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by jonathankoren »

Darmody wrote: post #208
boringg wrote: post #171

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California still has every viewpoint that is imaginable though there does seem to be less space for far right. What's making everyone salty about Elon leaving is there was considerable amount of people who helped him build up in the state (i.e. state benefits, staff who worked incredibly hard for many years, consumers who bought his cars [drive in the bay area]) and he's peacing out, with a slap in the face to everyo…

Far-right aka everybody who's not a democrat.

You really need to read a political science report.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/31/the-repu...

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by herodoturtle »

boardwaalk wrote: post #292
herodoturtle wrote: post #260

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Does it have visible inequality? I've never been there.

Texas is huge. It’s hard to make any sort of generalization. But there are homeless camps in particular places in cities if you go looking; with the weather, it’d be surprising if there weren’t. But from what I understand it’s still not as bad as some places in SF/LA. All I come in contact with, living in middle income suburbs, is panhandlers at intersections.

> All I come in contact with, living in middle income suburbs, is panhandlers at intersections.

Not sure what you mean by "panhandlers" - please clarify?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by [deleted] »

bosswipe wrote: post #250
S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

Pretty interesting to see how much glee many people take in anything negative about California. What is that about? No other state gets so much hate.

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